The Never Ending RP question !!

Posted: November 27, 2007, 2:58 pm

my favorite is the players who come on here put an [x] tag on ship then try to tax your trader. when you switch to your fighter and kill them that say i dont want to pvp. you tell them not to try and tax traders then yet they still try.

so if you are going to fly a roll play char you have to except the good with the bad. [r] and [x] tag char are going to be attacked by navy no questions and no warning.

i personally dont rp i like red dot killing it relaxes me after a long day at work, and i hate for some player to fly all the way out to were i kill npc at and bother me. wanting to try and force their rp on me. and trust me to get to me you have to take a little flight i dont set near any planets or trade lanes. that is when it is a real pain. you want to pvp go to alex or sparta or were ever you see alot of pvp going on dont fly 30k into space to mess with one guy who wants to be left alone that is just rude.

Posted: November 27, 2007, 4:16 pm

@ Strail

I understand how hard is make roleplay in (like you said) action game. I am still game master (on vacation hehe) of ultima online role play shard. Roleplay is even harder to judge, because noone is so good to have privilege to say whats good and what is not.

@ Strail, Eagleone, Zebulon

I still think, if you write a news about RP tag, some players will do it and can playwith others who want it. I know that would need at least one game master to watch over ppl who take this tag. What I am attemping to explain about roleplay is for Eagleone and Zebulon too.

Many scums just start shooting, the others defend themselves. After this clans and squads against pirates, against rogues, against hunters and assasins are born. Ppl in these clans dont know, why they are shooting without a word on X tagged player, but everyone in clan do it, so they just shout "We protect the innocent" and dont think about it. This means, even a good player who wants to play his role on freelancer doeasnt have a chance to play - he has to shoot back. No playing, just shooting. Wow. Thats how it ends.

And it can be done so much in freelancer - example of my gaming rp experience on another server. Me as pirate stopped with cruise disruptor a trader. I took position behind him and asked for tax. He asked me what for - I answered for protection and entering outcasts system. He started to argue there is no protection, that nomads nearly killed him and so....after 20 mins we made an agreement on 1 000 000 for one week free enter. And 2 000 000 for him if he will bring me more traders to tax.

Or another - 5 Hunters caught me in New Berlin - I tried to run, but one hit me with cruise disruptor. I started playing on broken engine, systems red....they took me as hostage instead of backstabbing me. My clan then tried to rescue me - they didnt succeed but I make it safely away while my guardians were bussy with fight - I flew only on thruster and main engine - cruise engine was broken in that situation.

You see, there is plenty of possibilities. But you kill them all with your "killing roleplay". Strange how nice there are two sences in the word.

@ Eagleone

I understand you - thats why I'm trying to think out something for players that WANT play, because more players dont want I suppose.

And btw after your trader loose, taking the the fighter and punishing him isnt example of nothing. Only that you can switch your chars really fast. But here too I have to agree some scums cant be treaten any other way.

P.S.: Whats so good on rp? Why should anyone try it? Because you dont need to sit and wait for event. You dont need to wait, what will admin do for your fun. You dont need to do dumb missions against NPC again and again. You live the life, you make your fun.

P.S.S. for Zebulon: You know, I can imagine you really are protecting players. But was really good when your pilot backstabbed my pirate while defending trader against nomads (well was coz I wanted tax him, but still better than die I think). Without a word, in the back, while fighting nomad....is it your mark of elite? Give it some reason and background.

Eagleone said there are still players on the other end of internet connection. Backstabbing anyone is the same as killing traders for fun. Same situation when I fought an ESF pilot - two clawns were shooting my ass while in reguler and fair fight with ESF Dragon who wanted me outta his system. Do you take X and R tag as a mark of scumback? Because if so, think again. This is dangerously near the situation in any real war. Both sides say "We are the good, we are the honorable, we are the ones defending the peace." Everybody says the same, the TRUTH is first KIA all the time. And this is supposed to be relax.

And what if you win? No X, no R, the Void will be peacefull all the time? Will you have fun? How long? Honor your enemy, honor the fair fight or at least let your enemy know about you. Or make war where everything goes, and see where it ends.

Flight Captain Joined: Apr 22, 2007 Posts: 202

Fracture";p="120374 wrote:

Develop your own ever so cool sense of Community and Friendship

this ones for me. love hanging round with u all even if u drive my skull into the wall once and a while.

back to RP , i never did like the freelancer part of it. i like being with a group and having the all for 1 , 1 for all thing

Posted: November 27, 2007, 5:35 pm

to carthoo

people dont take the time to chat because that takes away the element of surprise/they're dead when they're finished

rather run being blunt stil having a chance of getting out alive with cargo when you're finished talking than to get shot

the fight depends on the people you're with: you can have RP PvP, friendly PvP, getting 2#$@#$-by-people
PvP, it depends, but people rather take their chances then be dead

shoot first, then ask questions Very Happy

Posted: November 27, 2007, 7:01 pm

@ Dragonfury

Everyone can shoot on sight, everyone can backstabb, everyone can speak about the PvP. Thats in all games, all times. But true masters dont speak and can survive even when theyre not the first to shoot. Doesnt mean I am a master - never was in Freelancer. But I know enough about it to say, you can write something....3 words are typed fast enough. Btw dont take it bad guys, I thank you for your advicement. But I had Freelancer in release date, was in the game bussines that time. I dont know too much about Void, true.

Only thing I am trying here to make a few ppl believe, that this game and rp can go together.

@ Ghosty

Thanks for the citation, thats what am trying to do. Hope some ppl will try what am I talking about so others can see it.

Posted: November 27, 2007, 8:08 pm

The role play thing is a tuff nut to get right. At the moment I think that the localised nature of the game is acting as a hinderance towards rp. People log on and got to one of a small number of systems and tend to stay there. Sparta is one such example, which although its a nice system there realy isn't much there except gates and holes to other systems; the efz is by far a better place to go pound each other to dust but from what I see it is neglected in that respect apart from a few tournies.
At one point we had a clan system and this provided an opertunity for plenty of rp. Although most of the planets remained unused for the large part we used to gather at our base quite often for practice and just general chat. We were host to pirate raids from xef on a regular basis and if there were any Shadows near by they would pay us a visit and all in all everyone had fun.
Going back a while when I first started here in the 104 mod there was something even better with a number of systems having trade runs to and from zoners planets selling rockets, this I think wold go down well if reintroduced, or something similar.
It would have a great effect in spreading the gameplay around a bit with clans being given the opertunity to lay claim to a patch and all that comes with it.
On top of this you could add more high risk trade routes involving journies through 2 or more systems, more lucrative but providing a happy hunting ground for x's and r's.
Clans could form trading corps and us good guys would have work to do being hired out as escorts for the squishy traders.
All in all I think it would improve things no end if there was incentive for players to use more of the systems and people would be more iclined to play more within the original game rp instead of the 'me good guy u bad guy, me thump you big stick' thing that pervades the void today.

Posted: September 5, 2008, 12:42 am

BUMP!
This is something we really Need to start talking about again
RP is at the Core of what we are trying to Achieve on the VOID so we really need to put our heads together an find a way of getting it right

1st Lieutenant Joined: Nov 10, 2006 Posts: 73

RP is in my opinion down to each individual or clans own interpretation, my interpretation of how RP should be played is different from the next players and this is where the discrepencies start.

As far as clan RP is concerned the RAF interprets it the way that all R and X tags are open to attack from hunters whether they engage in illegal activities or not simply by adding the X or R tag you are identifying yourselves as Rogues or Pirates.

Mercs need to be treated with caution and traders protected irrespective of their cargo.

This is our basic RP, the rest can be found on our forum

www.raf.2fear.com