Concerning RP

Posted: September 20, 2007, 1:48 am

Hi guys just thought id post this an get some feedback from u

Ive noticed a lack of RP on the server l8ly so i was wondering what do you think Would Help the Servers RP
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Ruggs

Posted: September 20, 2007, 2:09 am

There should be a massive online rp battle! i tripple thread match like, in EPZ ! PIRATES Vs NAVY Vs ROUGES ! this i think will deffinitly incourage PR but 1 problem ! there are too much R and X ! We dont stand a chance ! Confused

Commander Joined: Feb 15, 2007 Posts: 574

I don't believe the RP can be helped because there is no enforcement of RP currently.

Players only RP when it's convenient for them. If they are alone, they don't want to RP, they just cry harassment........but if they outnumber you, then they want to RP. And they don't mind killing you over and over when they have many and you are alone.

The easiest RP to play is the Navy RP. This is because they can never get threatened with a harassment ban for over killing any tagged [X] or [R] player. If it's the other way around and a [R] or [X] repeatedly kills a Navy, they can be banned for harassment. This is unbalanced.

No offense but every [ADMIN] or [VOID] is a member of a Navy clan with the exception of Amrod and occassionally WW. This is unbalanced. And even then 666 don't always RP, they park up beside Navy all the time outside the Rock and chit chat about how great the old days on Void used to be.....

Posted: September 20, 2007, 4:01 am

"Occasionally"? I'm obviously not trying hard enough...

Ah, but to the point: I agree RP is sagging lately. The Navy clans have dropped off and either turned to other RP or just aren't as active as they used to be. Before anyone wants to shoot me, I'm on West-Coast USA time so I almost never see anyone from the other side of the world in-game. What you guys are up to is a mystery to me. But when I am around I see any "good guys" except ESF.

In my humble opinion, if we want to try to bring back RP we need to make enemies. Seriously. When everyone's all pals and sit around Sparta politely asking for a PvP, that's ok. But when clan invades another clan's space then things get really fun. But if everyone's all allied and friends, who's going to do that? It might start a clan war.

There's a thought...

Say what you want about the old DiE clan, but they knew how to start a war. The fact that everyone got PO'ed that they were declaring war on everyone, now that I think back on it, meant they were doing it right. When the Saints were strong, they'd stroll into a systrem and either clean it out our die trying and everyone had a blast. In these cases, either RP made it happen or it made RP happen.

If we started to build an atmosphere of "If you are a clan prepare to defend it" then maybe others will get into the spirit of it and RP will start making a comeback. Individual RP is one thing but getting your friends together to do it is flat out more fun. Clans and RP go together.

Commander Joined: Feb 15, 2007 Posts: 574

Watchwolf";p="149775 wrote:

"Occasionally"? I'm obviously not trying hard enough...

I was keeping any identity as vague as possible to maintain your privacy Wink

Posted: September 20, 2007, 9:18 am

Yea i think RP has gone down hill since a certain group vanished, but yea i have to agree with URAMl that evil and navy sit outside sparta next to eachother chatting bout old days, so what i do is undock and if i see them all chatting and doin nothing then i SHOOT! them to get them fighting back then next thing u know we got a fight on our hands and doesnt it seem better then just sat around?
But ppl nowadays are scared to shoot there "friends" on the opposite side of RP thats why i think RP has gone down (In my opinion).

Thats all i have to say lol probly off topic or something,

Cya out in the black!

Lt. Commander Joined: Sep 04, 2007 Posts: 440

DeathKnight";p="149770 wrote:

There should be a massive online rp battle! i tripple thread match like, in EPZ ! PIRATES Vs NAVY Vs ROUGES ! this i think will deffinitly incourage PR but 1 problem ! there are too much R and X ! We dont stand a chance ! Confused

god dam
thats what makes it fun 15 pirate/rogue vs 10 navy
its a chalenge and it becomes fun
so dont get your hopes down were still strong
for my part yes i can see people leave but i also exept people to join

Commander Joined: Nov 23, 2006 Posts: 696 Location: OHIO

As a rogue , I was able to inflict damage on all my opponants,

but in return I was attacked repeatedly by some people just for the rogue tag.

hmmmm.....maybe....I should return to the rogish profession and see if I still am any good......

Posted: September 22, 2007, 12:07 pm

@ Jase - Thats the WHOLE POINT of your R tag - it makes anyone your target and in turn you can be targeted by anyone as often as you stick your head out of the Rabbit Hole....! Very Happy

(by the way - KOBK would more than welcome your expertise... Wink

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@ Blazin - I have to agree that too many have become "cosy" with each other - Look at what happened with the BBD reunion in Sparta and Nomad 1 - it gave ESF a fright and it was fun....(after everyone settled down and stopped Beeeaching at one another - that is the most irritating thing here - just FIGHT for pity's sake and stop yelling at each other like a pack of mad fishwives..!)

I see too many supposed enemies getting comfy in Sparta - heck Im not against the polite etiquette of PvP one on one - but if there is a GANG of you just Sitting and your sworn enemies are kicking around...What are you doing? I have flown in my various guises and have frequently been ignored - maybe its because I am no fun to kill off. I promise you this - from now on I take a vow to STIR it up in sparta regardless of numbers and odds when I see everyone getting 'cosy'. And I give you this assurance - Just because I have a VOID suit doesnt make me imune from play - far too many are afraid to take on a character because..."oooh he is a VOID and he might ban me if I shoot him." I will not do so. If I have a complaint about overkill, harassment and abuse I will do what others do and Screen Shot my report to ADMIN for them to decide.
I WILL NOT abuse my position. I have adhered to my RP as AoF, BBD, BBD[X] and as others and have NEVER crossed over from one to the other just to suit. (I have had one occasion to change to the VOID suit - but that was sorted out to the benefit of all involved).

@URAMI: Mate...C'mon get it right - AoF have NEVER been a Clan (ok Im splitting hairs here) but we have most certainly not been Navy. Sure we have allies but on both sides of the law and not all of them are aware as to who we are allied with....I like to keep it that way... Its part of AoF's RP. As regards ADMIN and VOID - the fact that you are back here and playing on the server tells me all I need to know - you have accepted & I guess privately agreed in communications with "the Authorities" to behave within the server rules and I see no sign of that changing - thats what make this place one of the best to play - otherwise you would not be here, right?

If you are all following the various threads related to this you will see that I have taken the bold step to suggest, along with the Watchwolf, how we might be able to restore some of the previous activity to the VOID. It will take time and patience on behalf of those that are going to take on the role of "The Voids Most Hated Clan." It has proven a hard obstacle to shift - XEF DTA sadly, could not contend with it. TRIAD faded after crossing the line, RIP vanished, EU faded, Eclipse, 666 & SYNDICATE are all doing their best to stir the pot.

C'mon People -

"SHOW ME YOUR WAR FACE....ARRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!"
Very Happy

Flight Captain Joined: Jun 13, 2007 Posts: 239

Ruggs";p="149767 wrote:

Hi guys just thought id post this an get some feedback from u

Ive noticed a lack of RP on the server l8ly so i was wondering what do you think Would Help the Servers RP
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Ruggs

Something to fight for!

IMO , Clans/people get bored fightin and fightin and in the end theres no way of really saying who has won ..

A system needs to be set up for clans to war over a certain area with admins suppervising battles to name the winner at the end...Ill go into details....

Admins setup systems or bases that are owned by each clan...or let the clans decide or pay for a system or bases.... of course alot of this would have to be done in the forums...

Clan A owns System 1 ---- Clan B owns System 2

Clan A wants Clans B's System or Bases owned by them...

Clan A post on forums that they want war for ceratin system or bases that is controlled by Clan B ....

Clan B now has a certain amount time to respond to war , if no timely repsonse then the system/bases is forfeited by Clan B. lets say 4 days to reply ...

If Clan B responds in a timely manner then a war date and time is setup , verified by admins too , as they are the referies of the war and need to be present....again this has to be done within a few days or it will get stale...

Now a date and time is set for war !!

Its up to the Clans to have there number of players there on the date set. No ifs ands or buts or wait 10 minutes hes coming in --- the time is set , if your serious about it then youd be there!

I suggest all wars for systems or bases be in system there fighting for or around the bases there fighitng for. Regardless of NPC's , this is part of RP ... If your Navy then of course Rouge NPC's will shoot you , kinda of like backup for the clans...

The Clans go to war on the date/time set and with admin present (maybe 2 admins to help keep score).....I suggest that a time limit and a certain amount of kills be implemented , lets say 1 hour and 100 kills ....

Admins will count the deaths of the Clan members and when the set number kills is reached the war is over , or if the time limit is reached the Clan with the most kills wins!

In the end lets say Clan A wins the war , Admin will then post in the forum who has won the war and changes will be made to the "tag" in game on a base or system showing Clan A has controll of the System or that Base.---- like Sparta was changed to Xenos , at 1 time ----

Now to make things not so stressfull for the admins , maybe get more Event/VOID players to help in the administration of the wars.

Also , maybe 2-4 wars ONLY a week and once a clan has been to war that clan cant goto war for another week.

**********Also I suggest that a clan that accepts a war - can only use 1 allie to help them defend there System/Base --- Now the clan that DECLARED war cant have allies in the war , the fight is there fight , there the ones who want that ceratin base or system.***********

Ok, now for the clans whose RP wont let them dock at a certain base then have the fight in EFZ , or have all fights in EFZ....

I hope this help explains what Im kinda thinkin here...

I also think that this would help reduce the amount of clans out there now , as people would want to have a clan that is active and players to help in there wars , resulting in bigger more ACTIVE clans.

As I see it now theres really nothing to fight for , besides the fun of it -- wich well , we all see it now -- evil and good sitting around "The Rock" chatting or whatever , not really waring with each other....not really RP'n -- X's and R's are steadly docking at Sparta , thats hardly RP !

Posted: September 22, 2007, 6:27 pm

i like your idea Sythe, but there are a few too many restrictions.

Only allowing the defending team allies in a war? And only one ally?
And on top of that no allies for the attacking team at all?

If you want war, make it war!
Not a game of capture the flag or a rule packed water balloon fight.

In war, the winner is the one with strategy. The team with better pilots. The group with more allies and money for mercenaries. The clan with courage and honor to defend their home or take their enemies! In war there is no unfair fight, if you can't take a clans base due to their huge ally list, or because they hired as many mercenaries as you have members...to bad! That clan started out small too, and they worked to build themselves up into a family that is capable of keeping their system/base under their control. Allies should be able to defend their allies in war, be able to help them attack a mutual enemy.

Again i say, if you want war...Make It War!

Posted: September 22, 2007, 7:34 pm

URAMI";p="149771 wrote:

I don't believe the RP can be helped because there is no enforcement of RP currently.

Players only RP when it's convenient for them. If they are alone, they don't want to RP. And even then 666 don't always RP, they park up beside Navy all the time....

Ok to make my comment on that. Well, reason of not RP constantly is this, when 6-7 navy ppl are around me, I could jump in and start shooting, I'd take out 1 or 2, but then, what would I get, lol, angry navy on my 6 (altho I have three 6es hehehe) well, it's simply not possible to fight 7 ppl at once, even the newbies would blow you to pieces lol, not to mention esperienced navy guys (most of them lol), yup, sad but true, and this is not moaning, I'm not that kinda guy, it's just fact. It's ok to be R, you come, jump 1, 2 ppl and then run or dive, but hey, what that makes of one clan? You see my point here m8? This is the only reason why 666 (and I belive rest of bad guys) don't RP always m8, loosing my nerves (yes, it can be frustrating sometimes with few ppl after your blood, and it should be fun right) and not to mention fingers (you need to avoid beeing killed after all) to enforce RP.

We're doin the best we can, but ATM we're outnumbered (we as bad guys, evil, X and R). Like the other day in Sparta, 3-4 of bad guys vs 10 navy, we gave a hell of a fight, but at the end, we were defeted. So when the carnage settled down, it left me (evil guy) with 8 (navy aka good) guys... not much of a challenge there right, I probably wouldn't fire once before I got blown to pieces. My suggestion on this matter, well, what do you think?

@Sythe I'd say you have a good idea there, that shurly would spice up the RP.

P.S. I was in a hurry so pls, forgive my misstypes.

Posted: September 22, 2007, 10:17 pm

Point taken Amrod. I guess if you poke at a lion with a stick you should expect to get your head bitten off! Its a numbers versus skill game. 2 on 1 - 6 on 5 - 10 on 8 and so on...but at least its fun (well for a bit anyway - unless you are on the loosing side of course, but even then...!)

War is chaos. Where are your friends when you need them the most? Very Happy

But for the sake of 666 and other clans like them the Navy would have no-one to fight and it would become a Chat & Date@NavyMOD.com.......!

Not that I would "teach my grandmother to suck eggs" but - if you have a clan tag with a specific RP then if your not going to RP then have a non-clan untagged character to fall back on. Just a thought. Very Happy

Posted: November 29, 2007, 9:51 am

Problem of RP is that no time given to even speak, or emote. Everyone just start shooting. I wrote it here.

Many ppl pitty that rp isn't good here, resp. is nearly impossible. Waht about do new tag - something as [RP]. Only for us, who want to play. Will be good if some admin watch for ppl who have it, but it can be done even without burden them with that. When hunter and pirate with this tag meet, they won't have to shoot on sight, they can chat, menace themselves, and even if it ends in fight, it will have some point. I think 10 active ppl will be enough for first try....

And someone mentioned mass battles. It is one thing what kills the rp most. Never ending respawn fights. It is sure hard to get 15-20-30 ppl who will fight honourable....that means in battles has everyone 3 life and after expiring them he waits with all other "ghosts" by docking ring or station, stay on place without moving and just watch. Or my favorite, two sides meet somewhere to battle themselves. So 15-20 min of respawn fight and after that, every side chooses 3 champs (not chumps) and their fight will show issue of this battle. This was functioning well. Only example how wars may be.

And RP can be restored or builded. Every gaming server depends on how players are there and what are doing there. Admins can enforce, make restrictions, or rules, but no admin can fight the will of majority (*boastfully* "no man can kill me!" *glurp* - only cultural insert) sucesfully without destroying what he builded. The destiny of RP on Void depends on players - I believe admins will help if something will be started.

1st Lieutenant Joined: May 30, 2007 Posts: 32

i love RP a lot but i find it happens in forums much more than ingame.

someone asks you a real life question in game (usually a noob, and i dont mean noob in a mean way) and then youre out of character. another thing ive noticed is if you play a pirate (which i dont here but have), you can generally kiss RP goodbye. The person on the losing end doeset want to hear it.

conversley, i have had pirates attempt to 'tax me" while i didnt have any cargo. They then proceeded to use enough amunition on me to drop a level themselves. afterwards they asked "are you mad becasue you got a little taste of rp?". i found that humorous to say the least.

I am all for the roleplay, and when i decide what my ultimate function i will be after here, i will post mine in the forums, and try to keep to it character in space.

also, i dont RP over voice com at all. i dont think most people do.