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Re: New systems

Post by Silber07 »

I still don't have an internetconnection at home but I often visit the forums from elsewhere , whereever I find a good connection :-) ! So i passed something as it seems to me.... 2115a-c but 2115d is still aviable for me to download ....(about that one little question .... can I download it somewhere, put it on my Mp3.player and take it home on my laptop without damaging any files?)
ermm..... 3D-systems you mean like.... Omicron delta ?
Sooo just not to let LIMAN alone.... I agree with him . I like the systems like Alexandria and Babylonia better than those 3D ones.... don't get me wrong I didn't test those NEW 3D-systems yet because I don't have the mod ... but soon I'll tell you what I think about it... :-?
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Re: New systems

Post by geromix »

Well i cant say much regarding this since i havent seen the new mod but i think big systems just make it more "real".

Yeah but regarding the same planets and lack of variety issue i would say we should just wait,because there would be many updates in the future,maybe those planets would get "populated" and more ships would be added i suppose.

Its just too early to comment.
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Re: New systems

Post by LIMAN »

Hmmmm  :-?  i didnt know naming systems is spoiler,sorry about that.
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Re: New systems

Post by =EVO= »

Personally i went exploring last night and IMO it looked like all the systems have had a bag of marbles spilt in them and a 5 year old has been let go with a paint brush.
And the point of battleships is to make the server lag more? :-??

Also it is using more Ram that battlefield 2142 JOKE

Imagine how all them people feel that put in server donations and now cant even play.

LOL im ok i have 1024MB of ram.
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Re: New systems

Post by Asmodeuseswife »

[quote="=EVO=";p="161510"]Personally i went exploring last night and IMO it looked like all the systems have had a bag of marbles spilt in them and a 5 year old has been let go with a paint brush.[/quote]

Sorry but I have to agree. Its just a big mish mash of everything in Freelancer stuck in one system after another.
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Re: New systems

Post by Maverick »

I agree with you Liman about the systems being extremely big. In the 2nd version of the new mod, 2115b, we had a cruising speed of 900 or 1000. With these speeds crossing the huge distances was more than doable. In the 2115d mod however, the speed was reduced back to the normal 450. And with this speed distances of f.e. 200K (which are no exception) seem nearly endlessly.
I asked Strail if he would change the speed back to 900/1000 or maybe to something in between, like 750. But he told me that this would cause everybody problems when crossing asteroidfields. On autopilot your ship will just keep bouncing between asteroids, trying to get back on the waypoint. Let alone flying through these fields manually.

You're right about the loads of undockable planets and planets with few new things too. This can be very annoying when you just crossed 200+ K to get to a 'new' planet. However,
If you select a distance planet, you can see by the 'dock' option in the manoeuvre bar on the top of your screen if you can dock on the selected planet. If it lights up, you can dock. If it doesn't, you might be better off not bothering.
However, this will not solve your mapping issue.

We should keep in mind that there are 2579 dockable locations in the new mod, devided over 115 systems. So you can be sure you haven't found every new item (weapon or commodity) in the new mod yet. No doubt there will be a lot to explore for weeks or months to come.

Furthermore, Strail and co are not even completely done with adding bits and pieces. Take the clan bases: there are some which still need to be added. So maybe there will be more changes in the near future, like added dockable planets, or new ships/weapons/commodities. No doubt they will come to that . But they are probably busy enough ironing out the bugs at the moment. And I have the feeling that if we addres these kind of issues with Strail or other Admins, they will find a way to deal with them. If either it's adding tradelanes or buyable items, or increasing cruise speed after all.
I am sure that they acknowledge the fact that traveling 200-400 K doing 450 can be a bit boring.

Keep up hope m8, there is lots to explore and except for a few issues like you described, the new mod is an incredible addition to the Void as we knew it and there is a lot we haven't seen yet, so maybe it's a bit early to judge.

Cya in space.

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Re: New systems

Post by eagleone »

ok for all of you who have not gone thru a new mod  just wait and give it time. also remember that with this new mod strail can add anything he wants with out having to do a new down load so once this mod is stable he can begin building thing as he sees fit.

someone else said this but it bears being said again alot of people were all posting when is the new mod i cant wait, but when it is not what you invisioned you want to complain. we went thru this with the 2112 mod everyone complaining it was taking to long then when it got here people complained about this ship or that gun. til strail changed alot of stuff and made it just like the old mod.

people our creatures of habbit they dont like thing to change.  well i for one think it needs to change make the void different not like the last 2 mod i think the big systems with alot of planets are great. so now you have to fly your ship and look for things, i am crying a river for you, most of the players on this server have been in less than half the systems on the old server and had like 80 or less bases very few players went and found every system and every base and jump hole. so why bitch and whine about big systems you are never going to go to anyway. most of you will go back to sparta and unkown 2 or nomad 1 and pvp anyway. but those of us who like to play the game, the whole game, we appretiate the year and the half of work strail and his team did to bring you all a free game like no other out there.

so if you dont mind, shut up the bitching, for lack of a better way of saying. i swear some of you would whine if someone gave you a new car because you did not like the color. so now you can bitch and flame me but dont you dare flame and bitch at strail and his team for all there hard work you ungratefull little children!!!!

the only thing that needs to be said or communicated to strail are bugs and maybe some great ideals for the future, be construtive with your coments.
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Re: New systems

Post by Burn »

Maybe running a poll about this might help...just to share our thoughts to the Admins and let them know  what we thinks about the new Systems.
I think it's a matter of getting used to...
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Re: New systems

Post by [X]Thorn[X] »

Changing cruise speed is very simple, just like the Speed mod thing thats all...

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Re: New systems

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Wise words Eagle One!

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Re: New systems

Post by Zeron »

eagleone, have you even begun to consider how extremely large these systems are? As far as I can tell, they are atleast twice the size as a normal system based merely on X-Y axis. On a normal system, there is no Z axis in use. So it is 1x1x1, coming out as 1. Now with only twice as large as normal, 2x2, it comes out to be 4. Throw in the Z-axis, 2x2x2, and it comes out as 8. 8 times larger atleast, and I can bet that it's actually larger than twice the size of it. 50 of these systems basicly comes out as being in essence 400 systems. If it's 3x3x3, that means 27 systems in one. 1,350 systems. I'm not sure exactly how much larger these systems are, but the larger they are on each plane, it becomes exponentially larger than a normal system. Try it, watch the nav map once you've lined up with the X-Y plane, your ship will move across it slower than normal.
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Re: New systems

Post by AnGel »

speaking about 3D sistems , the speed should be increased (the 450 speed isnt enough)
It takes ages to visit 5 planets , think about all the planets of the sistem ... once explored , THERE ARE OTHER 3D sistems ... that takes a life time to explore ...

My point is that the actual speed isnt enough , it should be increased at least at 600 ...
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Re: New systems

Post by Zyos »

Then you'll complain about not being able to navigate through asteroid fields quick enough and you become a pinball ...
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Re: New systems

Post by Zeron »

With that kind of speed, you can just fly over asteroid fields.
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