3D Insights/Impact

[Burn]

First of all this is not ment to be a rant or anything it's just the way i see things.
If you wish to add your views about the 3D systems and their impac feeel free to do so.


Although only six of these 3D systems have remained here on the Voidserver i think that they need an overall removal as they had quite a negative and demoralising impact on the players of this server (this is my opinion of course)

They have nothing in common with the original concept of Freelancer.Cruise speed was also probbaly increased to 450 to make it easier to travel around the 3D sys (another concept far from the original of Freelancer)

Take Babylonia as a good example of how a system shoul look like in a mod.
Planets and Bases interconnected with tarde lanes...Outland bases well hidden in nebulas belonging to unlawfull new factions.
Europe,Pirates,Fugitives etc all new factions with new ships/equipment when 2112 mod was first released.
The perfect combo if you ask me and which has drawn a lot of people to visit them and also given them the opportunity to do missions for these new factions against other new factions.

Currently if the Void,let's say would be basically a vanilla mod and all it's new features would be available in 3D systems i would hardly be convinced to visit them
I would only pay them one visit to get all the new equipment available and then leave them whitout ever considering of returning to them.
Strail probably was inspired by a NAtional Geographic documentory about the origins of space and invested a lot of time in developing these systems.(nothing wrong with that)
However most people join modded server not to explore but to shoot stuff and fly newly developed ships etc (it's sad but true)

If the time would have been invested in creating similar systems like Babylonia with new factions,ships,weps etc things might have had a different outcome (but there is no need for regrets now - what's done is done)
It's just my suggestion of how things should be donein in the near future to prevent a bad outcome.


You probbaly all think now: "Hey dude if you don't like them don't visit them!" But i am also thinking that they belong to the Void - so if you say don't visit the 3d systems belonging to the Void it's like refering to the server aswell...

Quite demoralising isn't it?

[McViper]

Your quite right, I always hated 3D systems especially that they have NO special equipment or such.

Creating Baylonia-Like systems will be good

[Burn]

Who knows?Maybe they have added new stuff in 3D sys maybe not...

And this is what i would like to point out...this constant feeling of confusion...

I admit i'm very confused right now - i read new factions were added +ships +weps
Then i observe that the cruise speed has been increased to 450 - then i draw the conclusion that prob new stuff has been added in 3d sys due to 450 speeed - and then i feel like blaaah 3D sys

A lot of players probbaly experience this confusement not knowing what exactly is to be done on the Void right now (i'm refering more to Freelancer right now not Clanmembers)

PS: i joind server yesterday and saw that most people were in eh forrlowing systems : 6 in Alex 3 in Sparta 2 in Tartarusd 2 in Babylonia and rest in NY,NT,NB Theta Gamma  space (22 in total)

[TheLaughingMan]

mate with al do respect.
"demoralising impact on the players" where? How? Nobody there?

We need Players who have patience to explre the non 3Ds systems for new ships. weapons ect...
most of the new players wish to "jump into fire" EK half year ago or more was a "fashion" to buy BS if you cant defend yourself with fighter, most of them started to moan if they got killed within their BS

Yes, i don't like 3Ds systems
No, some players can have fun there, if they wish to trade silently,give the order "go to", sit back, vaching TV or whatever.

So new players who accept this special rules,
- Expect pirate encounters everywhere,
- Explore a bit before you start asking questions like "where did you get your ship", "where can i find a good trade route", "why you shoot at me" <-(my favorite)

so i belive (and i repeating myself ) no new ships, new equipments, new traderoutes, new systems, removed 3Ds can help us out...

i don't remember when was the last time i saw any1 in so called 3Ds anyway XD
As you know 3Ds belong the fraction called Hel
Other weird systems, EK: the vanilla Dyson Sphere isn't fulfilled with bases, traderoutes ect... because they belong to Nomads
i think both unique fraction on Void got their special place to live^^

[TheLaughingMan]

BTW: Claudiu can i ask what is your name on Void (game not the forum of course^^)

[LemmyC]

[quote="Claudiu";p="224665"]I admit i'm very confused right now - i read new factions were added +ships +weps
Then i observe that the cruise speed has been increased to 450 - then i draw the conclusion that prob new stuff has been added in 3d sys due to 450 speeed - and then i feel like blaaah 3D sys[/quote]
cruise speed has always been 450.
it wasnt displayed as such, but you could see it when you hit the EK out of cruise.
please stop demoralising staff with your obviously false observations and conclusions.

[Burn]

DELETED Verminard.

[McViper]

Loosing self-control isn't advised in civilised discussions.

[LemmyC]

Deleted quote Vermiard

anyone living near this guy?
ill pay you for beating him up, seriously, send me a pm.

[geromix]

QUOTE DELETED BY DYNASTY

^^@Burn-
Such a post does not serve any purpose. In fact i would say it is childish.

You could get a response like this from Admins and the post will get locked-
Posted by Admin Verminard on one of Xenon's recent post which appears to be deleted now
"I'd just like to say after all the posts about "how we as a community, can help the server" and "what can we do to improve player numbers", all of which mention cleaning up the forums and making it a more welcoming place, we get this load of BS.

XENON I'm am sick and tired of telling you IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM PM AN ADMIN OR A VOID DO NOT POST ON THE FORUMS

HOW MANY DAMM TIMES DO YOU HAVE TO BE TOLD, EVERYBODY ELSE KNOWS WHAT TO DO. aS FOR THE REST OF YOU THAT ARE RISING TO THE BAIT EVERY TIME HE POST A THRED LIKE THIS YOU SHOULD KNOW BETTER THAN TO RESPOND.

THIS COMMUNITY IS ALL TALK BUT NO ACTION YOU ALL TALK ABOUT SAVING THE SERVER AND TAKING THE MORAL HIGH GROUND, BUT ACTUALLY DOING WHAT YOU SAY AND ALTERING YOUR BEHAVIORS...... NOPE NO SIGN ANYWARE

ITS NOT THE ADMINS, OR THE VOIDS, OR THE MOD THAT ARE PUTTING THE FINAL NAIL IN THE VOIDS COFFIN ITS THE SO CALLED MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY."

Burn,you have to be patient and smart. This is the same thing I told to Xenon after that post.

Not only will you get your chance to make your point but you will also get your chance to do something.

I know there is frustration but have some patience.

If nothing changes you can always leave the server and watch it die....

-Geromix

[TheLaughingMan]

Claudiu... seriously...
this place is not about to serve you...
this place is about to serve community...
how can you be helpfull with your dirty mouth?
This whole 3D issues is out of date already, solved to nearly full since 2115v7 or so.

opposit opinions serving a purpose...
... dirty mouth serving the intolerance

wanna know who reported you?
it was me with my incompetent colourfull...

[QUASAR]

Dude you are having problems with colours ROFL
Drugs are bad, mkay

[anoyingnomad]

*Deleted Verminard*

Im just lol-ing at you now. I hope you get a permaban from forums and server

They are working on the mod. They will read, but not post. Although a post sometimes does help our ideas. about whats possible and what not.


But the general idea is good. Remove 3D systems, and make VOID ones like babylonia, tartarus, zeta1 scorpii, and zeta leonis. I lOVE those. They are worth exploring. And actually give you a reward if you do. Like the mystery of the nine suns as i loved to see that.

[cmdrsaman]

Well, guess it's time to lean back and watch as you get banned, Burn. This was your way of trying to help? So long, then.  

Seriously, we need more of the better players posting on the forums, as too many of them are silent these days, and less who would only complain, moan and assign blame to anyone but themselves. You want to know why a group is called a community? Because the people in it work together for a common goal. If you don't want to do anything but tell others what to do, well, the least you could do would be to stop posting here and just playing on the server. If the community would completely go to crap, then guess what? The staff would get finally fed up enough to leave, and then you'd be king of the dung heap on a dead server until Vector decides to pull the plug on it.

You know, comments and suggestions are welcome, I've said that many times by now. Comments and suggestions where you tell others what to do are useless, however. For example: "make more 2D systems". Yeah, no kidding, capital idea. If it only were that easy. Can you help us out with that? Yes? Then great, come aboard! We could certainly use the help. No? Then don't make such "suggestions". Too many of those, and some will get too carried away - and you can see the result here. And if all the "discussions" on the forums will be threads like these, you can kiss the Void goodbye.

So if all you want to do is assign blame on anyone else, and not do a single thing yourself, click the log out button. Would you like to help? Then offer to do so, say what you can do and the like - thing is, we'll probably find something for you to do. Everyone knows that the server could use the help, and I'm not just talking about the mod.

[TheLaughingMan]

[quote="QUASAR";p="224683"]
Drugs are bad, mkay[/quote]

Roger that S.P.  :x