KOS: Regeners, F1 users and tax avoiders

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Frac

[Watchwolf]

Well now, all this does bring up a couple of interesting questions and they might as well come out here.

When pirates tax people who maybe just don't want to pay, you might think about this: You're Rp'ing as pirates. How about respecting when people are playing their own roles??? I can understand your being upset if some people are rude or not respecting you individually. I haven't witnessed it so I can't comment on that. But consider this: Taxes for Pirates are not your right, they are your desire.

As for me, personally, here's my view on it:

If you try to tax my trader, you have a choice and so do I. I can pay or not... you can shoot or not. Then it's over. If you "kill" me, you get nothing. I "stay dead, play dead" and move on to another character. No problem. No big deal. You'll go away sooner or later and I can trade when you're gone. If that's offensive to you... the name's SirEnity... make sure you spell it right on your list.

But as for taxing non-traders, consider this: The Freelancers Guild stands against taxation in their own RP. Members are free to decide for themselves if they want to pay or not, but some won't. We are admittedly a small union right now but we are growing. FLG member would rather fight than pay. Especially when you try to tax non-traders. Attacks on non-traders by Pirates for not paying a tax will be met with force by other FLG members if they are called on to assist. That's OUR RP. You've seen this in the game... It's a play on the standard Console notices we see once in a while... I try to remember to post it at least once a day:

Freelancers fly in all systems. Pirates should treat all encounters with caution. A public service announcement from your friendly Freelancers Guild.

You might want to keep that in mind. It's a game and we're playing it too.

Thanks for your time...

[Pirgoroev]

Thank you, Admins. Some ppl hate us, but all we are trying to get is - good fights, without regening and unfair escaping from the fights or tax. This is our role and this is what we are going to do while we are pirates. If some one dislike this situation he have the right to ask the Navys to help to traders doing their business without paying the tax. I can remember it was as I said when I just came here one year ago. Navys were strong and well organised. Well, and the pirates too. But now the time was changed and I can tax or kill anyone and get away with this.

Once again, to all: this is our role. At least we have the honor, we are killing our killers and taxing the traders and never using any of unfair tricks. Somebody can say we are killing everyone, but look at this from the other side. I cant go away from my computer for a minute or two when I undocked, because any freelancer will attack me then. I`m killing all untagged freelancers with level greater than 40th to prevent my own murdering, especially from the back.

Cheers!

[Watchwolf]

I'm talking about refusing to pay a tax. The FLG does not endorse attacking Pirates for no reason. Just becasue we don't want to pay a tax doesn't mean we don't respect Pirates. Honorable pirates are fine by me, but I still might not want to pay. But I also won't attack for no reason. Why should I?

I don't think turning Pirate characters into Rogue characters is a very good idea, Pirgoroev. Killing in self defense is one thng... and perfectly understandable. Killing pre-emptively is bad form. Bad idea. You're not a Rogue, why play like one?

[Pirgoroev]

If you try to tax my trader, you have a choice and so do I. I can pay or not... you can shoot or not. Then it's over. If you "kill" me, you get nothing. I "stay dead, play dead" and move on to another character. No problem. No big deal. You'll go away sooner or later and I can trade when you're gone.

This is what I calling RP. Each one of us is interrested to play his own role.

Freelancers fly in all systems. Pirates should treat all encounters with caution. A public service announcement from your friendly Freelancers Guild.

If you are hoping that oneday The Void will get the clear sky without the pirates and any freelancer will be safe from them, you`re making the big mistake. What Navy will do without the pirates? Nothing! You`ll sit at Sparta`s rock asking "pvp" anyone. The roleplaying will die without us. Look at us - how much pirate clans you can list? EU, Vagu, WPC and Netsphere. Is it so much for you to be in safe? Is it so much for anyone to fear? I`ll tell you - this is a very little factor of the game to make the game more interresting! Next step after the all pirates will disband is disabling the NPCs. Yeah, disable the NPCs to make your trading in Tohoku, Alpha, Delta, Theta more secured! But then I dont know what you`ll do in this game!

Cheers!

[aa]

Dont worrie DestroyDroid ,its only a forum , I told you this place had some bad things going around , didnt I ?

All these people with multilpe FLID's and all there different names , there hidden aggendas , the rumors and lies , the different rules for each and every Pirate , there noob question games , the player(s) who have ways of getting all your player profiles through admin friends or admins utilities , and those lists that people make ruining other players reputation here , which is the same as disrespecting them , isnt that a rule ? making a LIST of so called bad players is pretty disrespectful!

Then the majority wonders why they go through rough times on the VOID ! go figure!

Net' -- how many time this guy regen ? I bet ya' JUST ONCE! and seeing his other post , it was only after you guys attacked him!

So , I saw you get kicked for CHEATING ONCE!! does that make you a cheater ?!? NO!

Your so called list is bogus and disrespectful !!!

lets make more names and flid's .....

[lonewolfquestor]

I would like to add a little someting to the mix .What is the big hang up people have on this server about regening ?. Why is it such a mortal sin to regen , why are there so many people on here with the problem "if you regen , you are a bad fighter , a bad person , put on a KOS list , for what , using a few Bats and bots . Big deal
I would like to put my slant on this matter , i've seen people being called noobs etc for regening , why ?. I may in future regen ( everyone going to call me a noob ?) I 've been flying on Void a hell of a long time , so noob, no i dont think so .
Has it never cross the minds of people who do the loudest shouting , the reason people use bats and bots ?
: I like many others on here , are not bless with lightning reactions and a eagle eye aim , being at best a adverage pvp'er (although i have my days ), so when face with a better pilot , I sometimes would like the chance of having a good long fight with these aces , not the usual 30 second fight . When you fight someone , who you know is as good as you are , why shouldn't you wish to prolong the enjoyment of the fight a little longer by using bats and bots, after all isn't this game meant to be fun ?.
A few nights ago ,i was attacking some players who used Bats and Bots and I for one found it quit enjoyable , again prolonging the fight , so prolonging my fun and theirs . The fights did not last hours , a few mins or more , so tell me , whats wrong with that . I have heard the arguement " Good players can last hours using bats and bots " fine then, all the good players dont use them , if you reach a level , that you feel you dont need to use Bats and bots , ( I think we all know , up against a good player , even using B&B's , you won't last long anyway ) then fine , YOUR CHOICE
I cannot understand why players want to have a fight , only for it last 30 seconds or less and then say good fight , ( for me and maybe a few others out there , a good fight would last a lot longer and be a lot more exciting ), maybe standing a chance of killing a ace

What i am saying is give people a chance , if they wish to use what ever they can to win a fight , all well and good . A few extra minutes of pvping against someone , is that too much
So again I say maybe when i'm fighting anyone of you out there , I may regen, maybe i won't who knows only me . If I do , so what, no harm done to you or me
There you have it , my slant on Bats nad Bots
thank you for your time
Wolf

[Pirgoroev]

The old russian proverb saying: "do not step once again on the same rake". I will kill anyone from this list the next time, because my experience telling me that this person will use F1 or regen again, and nothing will change for him. If I will note that he stopped to regen or fought fair and did not escaped with F1, I`ll exclude him from this list.

[Pirgoroev]

IWhy is it such a mortal sin to regen , why are there so many people on here with the problem "if you regen , you are a bad fighter , a bad person , put on a KOS list

Because I dont like to kill the same player up to 16 times! A few days ago I fought one guy who was nice pilot and he was regened 16 times!!! Our fight was lasted about 15 minutes! I won this fight anyhow but I hate the fights like that! I dont want to regen too because it is unfair!

[Watchwolf]

Freelancers fly in all systems. Pirates should treat all encounters with caution. A public service announcement from your friendly Freelancers Guild.

If you are hoping that oneday The Void will get the clear sky without the pirates and any freelancer will be safe from them, you`re making the big mistake. ..... The roleplaying will die without us. Look at us - how much pirate clans you can list? ....... I`ll tell you - this is a very little factor of the game to make the game more interresting! ......
Cheers!

My friend... may I call you that, for we are not enemies, I hope... I don't say I want all Pirates to go away. Heck no! You might not believe it but I like the role of Pirates. I have nothing against Pirates, some of my friends are Pirates. It only says that you might not want to expect all Freelancers to just stop and pay, no questions. That's all. My intent is also to make the game more interesting! Maybe I should think of a way to re-phrase the statement...

[Xellas]

Неасилил , много букф Х_Х
Расскажите плиз о чём хоть толковали-то ? *_*

[Matador]

I would like to add to this too, In my old server we used bots/bat ONLY for battle becuase missiles were a BIG thing, and well when you got a paralizer and a cannonball hitting you it's kinda a hard to win plus the attackers came with 2-5 memebers. But I also hate that because I had a fight that took like 1.5 hours long, because there were 3 of us and 7 of them, we took out all except 1 and he kept regen and killing AI at same time to steal bots/bats so I finaly gave up

But here in VOID im getting used to the difference and I love it, so have fun and safe playing

~S~
Maty

[Fracture]

So far I want to thank most of the members posting on this thread....
There is a lot of good solid constructive discussion here.

Thanks in advance for keeping this conversation civil.

You may be interested in this thread >>> No Big Mystery

Frac

[Richi]

If you try to tax my trader, you have a choice and so do I. I can pay or not... you can shoot or not. Then it's over. If you "kill" me, you get nothing. I "stay dead, play dead" and move on to another character. No problem. No big deal. You'll go away sooner or later and I can trade when you're gone.

This is what I calling RP. Each one of us is interrested to play his own role.

Freelancers fly in all systems. Pirates should treat all encounters with caution. A public service announcement from your friendly Freelancers Guild.

If you are hoping that oneday The Void will get the clear sky without the pirates and any freelancer will be safe from them, you`re making the big mistake. What Navy will do without the pirates? Nothing! You`ll sit at Sparta`s rock asking "pvp" anyone. The roleplaying will die without us. Look at us - how much pirate clans you can list? EU, Vagu, WPC and Netsphere. Is it so much for you to be in safe? Is it so much for anyone to fear? I`ll tell you - this is a very little factor of the game to make the game more interresting! Next step after the all pirates will disband is disabling the NPCs. Yeah, disable the NPCs to make your trading in Tohoku, Alpha, Delta, Theta more secured! But then I dont know what you`ll do in this game!

Cheers!

Agree. The Void need Pirates/Devils/Rogues.
And don't worry, your RP is very good.