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[Ripper]

This is a great thing Strail.

Void's getting better and better.   =D>

[911]

I have to disagree, I think both are a pretty dumb idea, the cash... -.- I think there's no point ti that? What if your camped? Ganged? Thats a lose of money which maybe you desperately needed.
As for Alex 50 and above. You might as well let everyone PvP. Its not that hard to get to 50. I'm sure there will be a lot of complaints from this anyways.
I'm not saying your dumb by doing this, I just think its pointless.



Nine.

[LIMAN]

I dont like the cash idea it leaves too many opened doors for abuse of this rule.

Gav's idea-3 pvp wins,then you get the money is cool.

Opening Alex for pvp-great!!!

[Zebulon]

Hmm  - a tricky one indeed.  Maybe implement the PvP (level 50 +) on its own first, just to see how that will work out - that way at least lower levels of trading will still occur and not be killed off completely.  I kinda like the money thing for this reason - it may encourage people to try and stay below level 50 if they are not that good a PvPer  and it actually supports the AoF RP: In order to keep your level low you will need to stash your cash and gear somewhere - either on a character in NY or with one of the AoF Banks that reside there.  You will have to gage what sor t of ship to fly in order to do this.  Its a tricky RP because in the rest of Sirius its still open season....

I would even suggest that the money for wining a PvP be reduced due to the above stated problems such as the infamous Gangbang and the fact that weaker players will rapidly fall prey to the stronger Clans / individuals that may not necessarily abide buy the rules, eg the Five Kill - whats to stop some group coming back in different guises and basicaly emptying a players bank account?  Maybe make the amount a token gesture of 10k  - the sort of money you would get from a lower level Zoner mission? That way you still get paid - it doesnt bankrupt the other player and they are not inclined to leave - and if you are realy good then you wont have a great problem in getting cash to replace your used up ordinance......!!

Just a thought thats all...........

[Strail]

I like to test ideas.....

[LIMAN]

If winn/lose money for pvp is instated,it woud be good to keep EFZ out of this rule so that ppl have a place to praktice without loosing cash.

[JungChang]

[quote="LIMAN";p="146165"]If winn/lose money for pvp is instated,it woud be good to keep EFZ out of this rule so that ppl have a place to praktice without loosing cash.[/quote]

I like that idea.  :)

[NoMaadd]

i dont know, The money idea is bad the people then will not pvp just run from kill .

pvp in alex yes but without camping on gates. and why that lvl 50 do it lvl 40 and then all could join .

[Verminard]

As has been said, these ideas are all on trial, how they will eventualy be implemented depends on the results of the trial. So don't get all het up about it especially if you don't like it. Make your point and give it a go.

And as for camping and gang-banging, as I have said many times before in these situations, u can always log off or switch to a differant character. NO-ONE forces you to keep launching from dock and getting a kickin.

[Ruggs]

This Would most probably make the Game alot more interesting if you lose/win money in pvp

[Watchwolf]

Wow. Excellent thinking, Boss!

I don't understand the resistance to the PvP in Alex idea. For so long there were so many people complaining about no PvP in Alex. Now it's started back up and for players who most likely have the experience to defend themselves, and people complain about that.  #-o

All the things that were pointed out as reasons we should be allowed to fight in Alex are still there: Less reason for sitting around in Sparta, more action defending the gates, big battles at Demos and the gates, the return of some risk to raking in big bucks trading the NL/NB/NT route. Navy who say they've conquered all evils have something to fight for again. Pirates who say they can't tax anyone where the taxing is best can again, etc etc etc.

Maybe it's just human nature to complain. What I see is a great compromise for both sides of the PvP/no PvP argument.

Oh, and personally I like the idea.

As to the $ for PvP... I  wonder if you can implement the same rank filter for that as you do for the PvP in Alex. If you can make the $ idea trigger at level 50 then people who end up paying can afford it.  I dunno, just a thought.

The Void is all about innovation. The Void features all sorts of things no other servers do. Maybe that why people keep coming back. I'm all for trying new things.

[DIGGER]

is the lvl 50 thing just alex or everywhere?

[Strail]

Just Alexandria.

The money for winning a pvp fight has been put on hold.

[SAVAGE]

Personally I think its a great idea.

This might make certain "navy" clans leave Sparta and help to stop the moanin that went with it.   Now the gates need to be guarded again because you know for a fact that more rogues are gonna appear there.  

More guys need to role play.  If theres a rogue at alex gates or some pirates taxing, then traders etc should be askin for help.

It amazes me how much moaning and whineing is goin on and we havent fully tested it yet. Give it time and then decide.  Stop bein so negative a give it a fair try.

Everything has got to change and flow to keep it interesting.

[Moaner]

Lot of opinions and all have some sense but let me tell you that I dont read any post that explain why pvping for money is good for the server, NO ONE. And I can see easily 5 reasons against the idea. and maybe ten reasons if I think a little.

@ruggs said: This Would most probably make the Game alot more interesting if you lose/win money in pvp

Yes, some of you say that could be funny but for whom?, and why is good for server? Freelancer is about trading, missions, boubties, to get money not about fight to get money and...
.....@Watchwolf said: The Void is all about innovation. The Void features all sorts of things no other servers do. Maybe that why people keep coming back. I'm all for trying new things.

but this is NOT INNOVATION, there are several servers that I played that have this system. it is not negative, it is that I have seen what happen.

and....@Liman said: If winn/lose money for pvp is instated,it woud be good to keep EFZ out of this rule so that ppl have a place to praktice without loosing cash.


Well thought and positive but I see from another view, and this is sure an INNOVATION: Some ppl are interested in win or lose money pvping so it would be possible to make one system  called for example ARENA system where ppl can fight for money??. That could be very funny for ppl and it wont have the negatives effects in server life.

Everybody happy then and it is a really innovation (at least I never seen anywhere in FL). think about it please