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Re: End Of Story - My Departure.
Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 8:53 pm
by BabaRoga
[align=justify]XENON, mate,
I understand your feelings, and I support you 100%! Your disput and misunderstanding with some server staff isn't only your battle for equal rights of each Voidian here so, please, reconsider your decision once more. This time I 'm talking in my name, but I hope I'll be able to present 4S_SQUAD statement concerning this matter as soon as possibile.
I found Zeb's reply extremly anappropriate which offend each honor player here and common sense. It is unacceptable, and I'm afraid that our atmosphere we made here will go in apsolutely wrong direction.
From the other hand, spying or hacking private sections of clan forums are also extremly unacceptable and this should be concerned as heavy violation against right for privacy and freedom of speech.
Secondly, if there are doubts for cheating, they have to be proved by strong evidence. I haven't seen any.
Thirdly, Command Chain Responsibility shouldn't be acceptable here because it is imposibile to control clan members, their activity and identity.... Anyone with elementary interenet knowledge should be aware about it ...
Hold on Xenon, your Void role is important, I suggest you to keep going through, the justice is reachable but slowly .... you already know that.
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Re: End Of Story - My Departure.
Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 8:54 pm
by Maverick
As of this moment, Apocalypse and I are no longer part of ESF.
Our departure has many reasons, which we won’t display here, for it won’t do any good what so ever, but just cause a lot of endless discussions which we don't feel like engaging in. But let’s just say that there were too many unconquerable misunderstandings between the clan’s integrity and diplomacy and our personal principles and believes. Use your imagination.
We have found our selfs in a conflicting, uncomfortable position the last few weeks, for reasons most of you will understand. In our view, with all do respect, ESF has lost the principles and integrity it had when we were drawn to it, and with that the charisma of an example to the rest of the Void. You probably all know what we are talking about.
In our opinion ESF has strafed way of course.
All the recent ESF-related events have eventually lead to our decision to leave this clan.
Our decision is final and not negotiable.
We will be moving on and start fresh. You will know us from now on as the founders and leaders of the great -=HKD=- clan. It carries TGD's spirit with within, so all the efforts we have put in TGD, will not have been in vain.
TGD has been dissolved as a squadron of ESF. All forum topics have been removed, or will be very soon. If we don't get get to this our selfs for whatever reason, consider this a request to ESF forum admins to do so.
Some final words to various members on MAVERICK’s behalf:
@BlackDragon / =ESF=TGD*WHITE'TIGER: I hope you respect my decision. Please be so kind to delete your TGD char m8. I will compensate you for your loss in credits if that is your desire.
I thank you for being a friend and being open hearted as you are. I have always appreciated that in you. Nothing but respect for you. Hats off!
@Darkghost: Please don't bother to make a TGD char.
Keep working on your way back up. Though you can be a bit indifferent at times, I acknowledge and appreciate your efforts to do your best for the clan. Keep it up and you'll get there. I would have put up your name for a promotion if it hadn't come to this m8. You have great potential to be a true addition to ESF and I think you have been under-respected by the rest of the clan. Try to learn to step up and take credits for your good actions. You deserve them. I wish you strength.
@Maris: You too are respected for your open hearted view on things. And you great artwork ofcourse. Keep up the good work!
@RedDragon: Keep up the good fighting. And the best of luck with your RL issues m8. A good word of advice: Try to adjust your attitude a little, for it is not an appreciated one with the Server Guards and the ADMINs.
@Wolfie: Best of luck with your =ESF= mod. I hope you get it all done and running smoothly. Spam on!!!
@Electra: I know your true identity, I always have. And so do the ADMINs. You should be ashamed of yourself. You are one of the individuals who are a disgrace to ESF and Void. However I wish you the best of luck with your recovery and I hope you get your sexual preferences sorted out.
@Sherry: You are even worse. Your endless hardheaded stupidity truly astounds me. I can't believe you can be that arrogant and such a hypocrite and don't show any bad feelings about it. I consider you a low-life. You make me sick to my stomach. You are scum. Nothing more.
@WarCow: I haven't had the chance to get to know you. Though I wish you good times on Void and in ESF.
@Zare: Same for you. Keep up the good attitude.
@Xenon: I appreciate you for your good nature. You have come a long way with ESF, and that accounts for something. You are a greatly charismatic individual.
Though I can't respect the fact that you knew that Sherry was back on Void and didn't share this with the ADMINs. Even though you didn't know his true identity and whereabouts. And I neither accept the fact that you have unbanned him from this site. All of this makes you and the whole of ESF look stupid and adds to the general grudge most of the VOIDians have about ESF.
Same with the Electra case.
You need to learn when to step back and accept other people their criticism, as it isn't always meant to drag you down, but can be meant as a protection to yourself. Trying to always talk everything to your benefit is not respected by many and will create a hypocritical image of you. The fact that you represent a clan, makes for the fact you drag the whole clan down into disrespect.
I think you also need to get your principles straightened out. And when you have, try to stick to them. Don't try to twist and bend them to your benefit, or to make you look good. Learn to accept a 'NO' every now and then.
Take it all as a well meant word of advice.
Anyway, I wish you the best of luck with your clan. After all the struggle, it is still a big presence on Void. Contrary to what most of your members believe. Try and direct it into the right directions and you might very well give ESF a respected face once again.
All the best of luck to your wife. I hope she is doing better. Although I am not a religious guy, she will be in my thoughts. I wish you two the best of luck in life and strenght with your further decisions to have children. That good things may happen.
@The rest: Look over your shoulder every now and then. I'll be around. All the best with ESF and eachother. I hope you all either find your joy to play on Void again, or find another nice place to play. Good Luck to you all!
Some final words to various members on APOCALYPSE’s behalf:
I'm sorry to see this happening. I was actually kinda looking forward to ESF staying on the Void. Now, with this going on and with Zeb's msg, and Maris's Ghosty's and Electra's replies, I have a feeling that this ban won't be lifted for a very long time.
@Xenon - I'm sorry bro, I know that I said that I was going to move servers with you. I can't honestly do that at this time. My place is here on Void for the time being. And in that, I am posting my resignation from Leadership of the Elite Sirius Fighters. A new clan is/has been made which I am now apart of, and that will be announced very shortly. This has been a long time coming bro. For that I am sorry as well. I wish you all luck in whatever ESF decides to do. I know that a couple of ya'll have said that you will remain on Void, and I look forward to still talking with you.
@ BD - You've been a very great friend during my stay with ESF, and I hope that will continue, as I know that you had wanted to remain on Void with at least one char. Had some interesting conversations on MSN, and I would like to continue those as well. Just let me know, you know how to get ahold of me.
Cyall in space.
SCREAM ON!!!
MAVERICK
APOCALYPSE
Re: End Of Story - My Departure.
Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 9:14 pm
by [X]Thorn[X]
lol m8 i think that PM was to you and not the Void... stuff thats going on with you is none of our buisness, this is just another Topic that will be locked or deleted.
I don't think that anyone on the Void except your clan really cares if you leave... bring your clan with you, it just takes a load off of many VOIDians, sad to see a clan go but hey, you didn't agree to Zebs proposel, it's your clan, you suffer consequences as they do, your the leader and it seems your not a born leader since ya can't take any pressure from any VOID or ADMIN,
Cya.
THORN!
Re: End Of Story - My Departure.
Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 9:26 pm
by Kosmiker
That's one small step for (a) voidian, one giant leap for The Void.
Bye bye.
Re: End Of Story - My Departure.
Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 9:43 pm
by Doncha
Congrats A-team, you did it, I hope all of You can sign what Zebulon wrote in that message!!!
Sry to see you leaving ESF.
Re: End Of Story - My Departure.
Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 9:57 pm
by NuclearWinter
Bye Xen, was fun...anyway Electra stfu, do us all a favor and leave aswell, u just multiclaning at the whole time!
Void guards and admins make decisions with reasons, dont forget this.
Nuke
Re: End Of Story - My Departure.
Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 10:11 pm
by Vulcano
It's always sad, when u hear about departure of well known and active player. In this case, Void is probably losing great clan also, with is even worse to hear. Don't know details of this mess but imo it isn't a good way to end this. [VOID] tagged players are here esspecially to ensure integrity of this place, and all of this have nothing to do with it.
Re: End Of Story - My Departure.
Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 10:23 pm
by [X]Thorn[X]
Vulcano, i'm not sure if ESF was ever a "great" clan all they did was die and moaned...
Re: End Of Story - My Departure.
Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 10:54 pm
by Vulcano
Don't know all members of ESF personally, so i can't agree with u Thorn. For me they are big and active clan. Or should i say: were? Time will tell.
Re: End Of Story - My Departure.
Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 11:13 pm
by Burn
We both know that you will come back ;) at least i hope so
In the end it all depends on you and your clanmates...some small manner adjustments are necessary in my oppinion.
Untill we see eachother i wish you all the best and good luck with everything.
Take it easy
Re: End Of Story - My Departure.
Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 11:35 pm
by St_Ares
Sad news.... I hope you will rejoin this server and this comunity because i think everyone and everything deserve a second chance.
Good luck in real life !!!
Re: End Of Story - My Departure.
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 12:28 am
by yawanna
whel hope to see you in space xenon and i dont underestand al the problems in esf but cya soon m8 >>>>ATEN
Re: End Of Story - My Departure.
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 12:54 am
by Ryus
/salute to Xenon, you will be missed.