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Re: Eagle....

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 6:48 pm
by Mayhem
Theres nothing wrong with the Eagle it douse have dis-advantages its fast but lacks firepower that many ships have. If you can't out turn the eagle in a conq or a Anubis MK2 try to dodge and use your fire power as an advantage. Keep looking for its dis-advantages, its not a unbeatable ship. Also you don't have to worry about the server turning into a Eagle , vannilla type server. any VHF/HF can kill a eagle fast and easy.

Also i totally agree with what Beserker has sadi

Re: Eagle....

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 7:05 pm
by Mayhem
EDIT: My bad double post -.- sorry

Re: Eagle....

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 7:21 pm
by Greaver
Sure the eagle is fast. Damn i love the ship......... But i lov emy wa1 more xD

I have the complete opposite view to Bers, Weird really but its nice to have opposing views :)

I think we should slow the eagle back down. The void was very balanced with the slower eagle as the ships used were alot more diverse. Brawlers could still come through against snipers any day of the week. With guns ships it is much easier to learn how to fly and how to move it around to kill other ships.

But with guns? I know i have been sniper since day one on VOID. and when i try to brawl O_O = i suck hard. I just think it would kill the game to much to change something like guns.

But i have to say i dont think i will like it if the eagle was to be the only ship flying around in space in sparta again. But then again maybe its my chance to see if i could compete with the greats i looked up to in my time of the eagle like ziky and bers.

But then again thats just my view.

Greaver.

Re: Eagle....

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 8:49 pm
by Berserker
There will be still two sides, in this cause eagle - lovers vs eagle - haters. One side say keep vannila eagle in mod another side say make it slower. As I said, this situation was already here, they made eagle slower, haters were happy but lovers complained. Now lovers are happy and haters complain. It's like vicious circle. If admins will decrease turn rate again we will not solve problem. We will be again there we were before few months. That's why I think about lasers. Anyway Strail said nomad lasers will be back to 900 so we will see what happen.

I tried old eagle with lasers (900 m/s) on 2015 mod. Dawy was in anubis and damn,, it was much harder for me. I could not hit him that easily so logically he had more time and more chances to hit me even he was in anub.

Re: Eagle....

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 9:13 pm
by -DESTROYER-
if nomad lasers loose their speed, i'll probably go out of this server..... i suck in brawl   :D  :D  :D

i noticed today that Eagle is bad in dog fights

Re: Eagle....

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 9:19 pm
by Vulcano
Agreed with Bers about lasers. It costs us nothing to try and maybe this modyfication will make a big difference in pvp.

Re: Eagle....

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 9:39 pm
by Mayhem
Slowing Lasers would be a good idea. Also Eagle Brawling fights are fun =D

Re: Eagle....

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:53 pm
by LIMAN
Im not sure that slowing lasers will resolve the issue,eagle will still turn too fast.

Re: Eagle....

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 11:15 pm
by Doncha
Keep the Eagle and give me back my old Armagedons!!!!!!!  :x  :x  :x
:P  :P  :P  :P  :P  :P

I will not fly Eagle, I will still fly my WA1! :x

Re: Eagle....

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 6:51 am
by Symbol
Turning is a bit exaggerated. I recomend altering to match the Viper/WA1s turn rate. That way its only slightly worse then the other HF's but still a very usable PvP ship.

And onto lasers... icky. Reduce speed and get rid of 1.00 and make everything 2.00 and above. Its alot easier to pick your shots then to be forced to string a long chain of shots together to get the same effect. Brawlings alot harder then sniping, so i elect a rebalance of sniping weapons or getting rid of the 1.00 class altogether. But thats just me.

Re: Eagle....

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:47 pm
by Berserker
Och armageddons !! I want them back too !!  :D

Re: Eagle....

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:57 pm
by Inf1n1ty
Arma's where way overpowerd. I remember heaving all Armas on shot boom good bye AT.
And eagles are having a bug you can tell by the way it turns, not just of his seedturns, but turning really weird.

Re: Eagle....

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:06 pm
by Mayhem
Turning is a bit exaggerated. I recomend altering to match the Viper/WA1s turn rate
The Eagles Firepower is weak compared to these ships, slowing it down to the vipers speed would make it a useless ship.

Re: Eagle....

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 7:32 pm
by -DESTROYER-
my proposal:

Eagle should turn a bit faster than wa1 (wa1 has a little more firepower), and a bit slower than discoverer (eagle hes greater firepower).

i think this should make it a usable and equal pvp ship.

Re: Eagle....

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:11 pm
by LIMAN
[quote="Symbol";p="166885"]
And onto lasers... icky. Reduce speed and get rid of 1.00 and make everything 2.00 and above. Its alot easier to pick your shots then to be forced to string a long chain of shots together to get the same effect. Brawlings alot harder then sniping, so i elect a rebalance of sniping weapons or getting rid of the 1.00 class altogether. But thats just me.[/quote]

This is very interesting idea.