Freelancer - The Void

Btw. It's not a graphics bug. Have seen it before on a player. Can't remember what causes it though.

[quote="zyraxes";p="220510"]You guys just cant accept Dacia being best clan here
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This is a joke isnt it?

[quote="Shyne";p="220512"]
This is a joke isnt it?[/quote]

That was a joke  wasn`t it ?

@ Shyne: nah, he's serious. Everyone thinks that the clan they belong to is the best one, isn't it? :P

@ Zyraxes: Sigh... conspiracy theories. Gotta love those. The Secret Geneva Convention requires you to do that.

Anyway. You talk about a dirty war against Dacia members, and such, but you seem to forget one thing. This is not your server, or mine, or any other players': it belongs to the admins. They are the ones who keep it running, pay the bills, and so on. As such, they are the ones who set rules. If they wanted any group of people gone completely, they could just ban them all, and that would be that. There's no need to ban individuals just to have a whole group gone.
Also, this is not a democracy, and the ability to play here is not a right. I, for one, am very surprised that the admins let you get away with publicly calling them corrupt - if it were me, I'd break out the ban hammer for that. People have been banned for 7 days for less, after all. But how they run the server is up to them, and not any one of us. If you don't like the way the server is ran, pretty much all you can do is leave. Publicly "moaning" (in your words) about it won't solve anything.

Of course, it's easier to be paranoid and accuse unknown forces of conspiring against your clan than to look around in your own clan and face that some of your own people have been cheating. (It's only human nature: all too many people prefer to say that everyone else is wrong, and nothing at all can be wrong with themselves.) Frankly, by now I don't care if any of the cheats were done with your knowledge or without. What matters to me, as a player, is what playing with you guys is like. There are better players than you out there, both in skill (you even said that yourself) and in manners, so from now on, I'll just stick to playing with them, and ignoring you.
Also, I apologise for Inf's outburst: had he done the same, he wouldn't have been pissed, and would've communicated what he wanted to say in a different way. Chalk that one up to the way you acted here on the forums, though, since the last straw for him can't have been that he got his ass kicked in-game, because he wasn't even playing lately. Also, don't forget that he's been around a lot longer than Dacia were, you know. He's more skilled than I am, and in my experience, I could handle most of you on 1vs1 quite well.

[quote="zyraxes";p="220510"]where were you when there was a way to earn about 100mil /hour with weapons tranzactions? In those days we made bilions of credits,working for days in weapons traffic.[/quote]
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that was a bug, and therefore, earning tons of credits that way was an exploit. I'm fairly certain that the devs didn't intend ferrying weapons back and forth to be more lucrative than trading, at least. There should've been a rollback when this was discovered, but for whatever reason, there wasn't. (No, not because you were exploiting this, but because anyone could've exploited it as well. In fact, I'd be very much surprised if no others did that.) As for where we were then? I, for one, chose not to exploit that. As far as I know, neither did any of the other Reavers. Credits aren't the best currency on the Void y'know :P
(Also, if I had proof that someone who's still playing with us did, then I'd ask them to hand over the credits they earned that way, and then I'd hand out the cash to random passers-by. Give back to the Void, y'know. It's more important than you think.)

@ DjLancer:
[quote="Dj-Lancer";p="220520"]I like that you think that voids and admins are God and they can`t mistake never ever.
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Stop saying that admins and voids are God pls.[/quote]
Now, where exactly in my post did I say that? I didn't, so don't put the words in my mouth please.
Admins are people too, and they can make mistakes. If you say that they made any, then back up your claim with proof, and preferably do it privately.
But you're right, admins can do whatever they want on their own server. It's the same on any other place. If you don't like the concept of that, you can still create your own server :D

Okay, I believe those were all my cents on this subject, so I'll stay away from all of this. Have fun.

You said :"As such, they are the ones who set rules. If they wanted any group of people gone completely, they could just ban them all, and that would be that. There's no need to ban individuals just to have a whole group gone. "

Ok why they don`t ban us instaid of doing this. I don`t understand guys... Because here is not democracy admins and voids can do whatever they like( you said this cmd ). I like that you think that voids and admins are God and they can`t mistake never ever. Rong, Admins and voids are humans and they can mistake, they can take bad decisions and so on ( i`m not acusing any void or admin ).

" Accusing an admin of posting fake screenshots?
Way to go. That's a bad joke."
Why? Aaaaa because here admins and voids can do everything they want ... i don`t get it. Everyone can mistake m8. Stop saying that admins and voids are God pls.

I repeat i don`t accuse any void/admin with this post.

Best regards,

[quote="Dj-Lancer";p="220478"]Both images are fake m8 . Look closely at verm`s post... you can see that the edges are different ... also the colors . HF [/quote]

Um aren't you saying here that the image is faked?

I`m not sure if the image is fake or not. I said why in other posts. I might be fake or no ? Right ?
That was a fast reaction... of mine.

Regards,

As Saman said, you got the money by exploiting a bug.

Oh btw, i laughed so hard that my mother asked me if i was ok. When you said that dacia is the best clan.


This is as ussually going nowhere #-o

[quote="zyraxes";p="220510"]@infinity: just because you don't knowt to fight it doesnt mean your enemy is cheating.Just because we are big in number and organised it doesnt mean we cheat.You guys just cant accept Dacia being best clan here and you started a dirty war against us.you talk about level 90? where were you when there was a way to earn about 100mil /hour with weapons tranzactions? In those days we made bilions of credits,working for days in weapons traffic.I am tired to explain every situation.Void is nothing more than a big words fight,you guys forgot to play.You make only accusations and dont play anymore.It is impossible for you to understand the true.Fair fights you say? Just because you dont know to fight,just because we are bigest in numbers and much more organised it doesnt mean we cheat.(ask yourself why some of 4S or Zeus or good fighters are always wining a pvp against us? it means they cheat? No.they are better). In the meantime,go play the game and stop moaning and accuse without knowing the true.

Cheers[/quote]

Alright maby read next time, these are facts

[quote="Inf1n1ty";p="220485"]
Not to mention the numerous ones of blackmailing, gang rape, dock rape and <20 player kills over its time. Most have sucked a** (hard thing to do you normally go for the other thing) to remain in the void.
Aslo remember making most members (all) lvl90 using EVENT chars of Electra and i thought some more, but cant remember the names.
And hiding Cherry and letting Aurelius using another IP and name. Yes Cherry was caught in another clan hiding, but also was hiding (multi clanning) in dacia with most members knowing.
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Money exploid is one thing. Abusing the power that has been giving in trust by the ADMINs is a whole nother story.
And where was i??? I was fixing it while most of the Voidians still kept doing it.

And did i say i was complaining on losing some fights??? Show me where i said that.
I dont care about a fight. I have lost from everyone and i have won from everyone in its turn. Ganging and proven hacking is what i'm talking about.

Now dont try to use a little psychological warfare here. Remember i use that for my work everyday, so your outgunned.

I never moaned, just look at my post history's or ask anyone that knows me for more than a quick glance at my nmame.
This Needed to be say'd. it's just time to face it. Review the clans history and judge it truthfully.
Take it like its is.

<---------------5345 5346 5347 5348 5349 5350  :D that cat still going for it

LOL edam =)).

I don't know if (and when who) cheated, so I keep my mouth shut to that topic.
However, there is one misperception around which possibly causes some iritation for players.

And that is numbers vs. skills.
As far as I can tell, DACIA relies a lot of strength in numbers (this does not mean they are all unskilled or it is a bad clan- this just is a different approach).
The Void server often has been dominated by individuals with high skills- dedicated players who have played and trained long time. For those players, it can be quite annoying to get "gangraped" by a huge amount of (at least perceived) lesser-skilled players, especially with "noob" missiles.
I am not a holy man (except in my saint role  :D ) and -during my active career here- I was as much guilty on that than everybody else, if not more.
However, one has to accept that the "numbers" approach is as valid as hand-picked elite clans...in fact I think that VOID needs *more* of the strenthg in number clans. These can offer security, advice and tutoring for the less experienced players. And they can effectivly fight wars- not the small skirmishes we usually see here.

The downside is...once in a while, you pick "bad apples" in big clans. Players who swear, cheat, whatever. This is of course not a problem, if your clan just consists of your 3 closest friends...

A clan leader has to be prepared to deal with such situations, if neccessary together with the admins. I cannot judge how well DACIA does that- but IMHO that is the thing their leadership should be meassured against, and *not* "they once had a cheater, their clan cheats".

Sorry for the rant....

Cheers

Becker

I got a q is aurelius still in dacia?

[quote="Inf1n1ty";p="220487"]@DarkPand0r Admins where eye witness to the event. NPC's might, might be a glitch but a playe stands induvidual from the server. Entering with HIS own .ini files.
.ini files cant be changed by altering numbers, but they can be hacked and that is what has been done. In 2112 it was done with the atmageddons that fired 8.33 indtead of 1.00 it was done be me and a vew to let the Mod makers show how easely it was.
They made an improovement, but clearly still hackeble.[/quote]


actually thats what an ini file is...pointers and numbers, learning to use them is another thing

BUT what i would do is keep a very good compressed (ENCRYPTED AND HIDDEN, PASSWORD PROTECTED FILE IN EXE FOLDER, AND PASSWORD IS SERVER SIDE) as a security, if everything is like it should be in the ini files u can connect, if not then you won't be able to connect, neither if the file is not present

yes its possible i know it, the programming part won't be too hard either

and please stop this topic..

Topic locked, contact me by PM is you wish any further discussion.