time to vote on new tax scale( please vote everyone)

[Osiris]

i think it can to be ok, yes!

here is the scale
lev 35 to 39- 50k
lev 40 to 49-100k
lev 50 to 59-200k
lev 60 to 69-500k
lev 70 to 79-750k
lev 80 to 89-850k
lev 90- 1mil

that is right for me  :D

cya in the black

[The_Kaos]

I think 200k is too little for a tax .
If u are navy u can earn 200k only bay snapping twice.
And with 200k u cant even buy a good wep.
I think The tax should be btw 1,000,000 and 1,500,000

[mwolf]

now only we need to find how to force people to pay up
for example today
I was flying AT (levl 61) so pirate comes and ask for 200k tax ofcurse I could dock in 2 sec so he can not kill me with my cargo
I am docked and sold cargo, I go out and start to have fun with him. I stoped he sent trade req I shoot and dowened his shilds ...
run>docked rearm cms, bats and all over again few times
then I asked him to get a deal I will give him 100 k not 200k because he can not kill or even catch me ( I menat topay him200 k if he agreed for 100k ) but he refused and told that it is around 1 mill tax agreed on forums
Well i did not saw him anymore even he was in same system ... well i had to go so he did not get any $$ even he could from me but he should be little more agile
so
we can talk about tax ammount but if we can not force someone to pay up .....

this si little offtopic perhaps  sry for that

[Spacemarine_E]

yes

[eagleone]

wel i have not posted to this thread for a while because most of the players did not post we had around 40 we need more like 100 to go to strail. but here is a couple of things i do want to answer.

doom how do we tax a % of the load do you have every trade route memorized i really doubt that. i can buy the same product at serveral bases and each have a different price. so you dont know how much i have invested and there is no garantee that i am selling for top money. so it would be almost impossible to know what a trader has unless your running the same route with the same ship.

as far as high pay routes i dont know what you all consider high pay i know of at least 3 runs that pay over 3 to 3.8 million in profit right now and sereral more that are over 2 million. and i know of some that are shorter that pay 1.5 to 1.75 mil but you can turn them so fast you can still make almost 20mil an hour.

mwolf first off if your in an AT you are not going to kill someone in a fighter unless he is  new and can not fly a ship. second coming out and shooting and redocking is not cool, that is what we are trying to get traders to quit doing. now he is totally wrong tho the taxes have never been changed we want to change them but we need more support. but what you did is why pirates just kill trader instead of tax them.

what he should have done is wait for you to leave the base then cd the trade lane cd you and  hit you with a torp one time then you will pay or die. never stoped moving and keep moving around you hitting you with cd till you payed..

i had a pirate cd the trade lane a week ago in my STU char i payed him 200k he only ask for 100k he was surprised that a trader payed up so easy. but i had a load that would pay 1.5 million in profit. a small price to pay to help role play on the server.

pirate role play needs to be fixed no dought but so does the traders that is why we started the STU for traders who want to role play.

the thing is we can raise taxes but we cant make traders pay or keep from hiding money in the bank, and we cant make pirates role play correctly. so if players dont want to play the role right then it makes no since to worry about the tax.

[mwolf]

I know I can not kill so fast in AT but the thing is if you r a pirate you must behave like it, so what chance I have in AT even in runing if  you have a fighter, not much , As I said it before I was a pirate in past and know how hard it is to collect, in 99 % cases I pay up a tax, but As a "victim" I have right to have fun too, in runing from pirate avoiding them ... and only when i have no means to defend myself  cm/bats... only then i pay up, it is fair in my book , So if you can defend yourself then you do not need to pay up if you can not then it is proper way to pay up isnt it ?

[Hash]

I feel sorry to repeat this, guys, but:
1.- If players hide money in their bank there's no way to know how much money they have and so pirates can't tax them properly.
2.- Taxing someone is a thing pirates have to do very FAST, no time to remember what tax scale to aply. Maybe experienced pirates would do it, but newbies surely won't.
3.- New players will simply die if they're tried to be taxed, because they don't know anything about this tax scale and they came to the Void to have good times fighting. Only when they die a few times in pirate's hands will start to learn what's going on.

I'll remember you the option of creating the "Cash Disruptor" weapon  :P

[-Wolfie-]

lol...i want it at least 1 mill

[Cannon[X]Fodder]

mwolf, stop embarrassing me. Stupid quick docking onthe Hispania.

1. no
2. no
2. YES


First of all, I've never met anyone above level 30 that couldn't pay a 200k tax.  Secondly, the graduated tax scale is overly complex.  I think there should be a 200k tax for people level 40 and below, and like a 1 million or 2 million tax for people above level 40. a good ship and an AT alone would put people above this level no matter how much money they have.  But the main problem is traders often refuse to pay tax. A lone trader trader refusing to pay tax is about as rude to a pirate as using shield batteries and nanobots in pvp.

[eagleone]

i agree with you all you cant make them pay, the tax scale was made up from 2 other treads we ran for over a month and was a compermise of ideals. there is no way to make everyone happy i know that i also said that in the forums we have to be mature about this and learn to compermise. you cant always have thing your way, i know for some of you younger people out there this might be a shock but in the real world were us big people work it is very seldom we get even half of what we want. so you learn to get along with what you can get.

that is what i am trying to do here is see what we can get, remember right now it is 200k tax period. we are not going to get a blank check or a huge increase with no limits on lev, if we are at 200k right now. it must be a request to the a-team that has a chance of being accepted. the funny thing is when we were talking about it on the forums only a couple of pirates said anything, and i begged the pirates to let us know what they wanted.

here is the thing to those who put  no,no, yes. it is not a pick and chose vote it is an all or nothing. a simple yes or no. we can go back and make the scales simpler, but i fear that would make the over all total a little less, but i can work on it and post a new vote hopfully this time the poll option will work for me.

[Mad_Mikey]

I have a pirate character and frankly the 200k tax is reall damn annoying if a trader is in an AT he has paid 2mill at least for the ship and weaps.... so im willing to bet he can afford a 750k - 1mill tax... and some of these trade runs (diamons new berlin - new tokyo) pay 2mill a shot for the AT so i vote that the minimum tax for ATs or ppl over lvl 40 is raised to at least 750K

[vector-x]

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