Freelancer - The Void

Ok so im curious what is the point of having all of those beautiful non-vanilla ships,when eagle can outurn them all?

Eagle armed with 5 nl3 and screamer can kill anubis mk2 in 4 shots and wa1 in 3 shots.
Most of ppl flying Mk2 or Conquerer dont stand a chance against Eagle,so i guess these ships will become obsolete,that woud be real shame  :(
Sure it has its weaknesses (low resistance to missiles and mines),but its fast turning enables it to be extremely hard to hit.

Furthermore i find pvp in Eagles less fun,its just flying in circles.Not much maneuvering and tactics needed.

Seems to me that Eagle is out of balance compared to other ships.

Basically everyone will switch to Eagle,just like before, and i dont think server will be more interesting but more dull because of this.
The main part of VOID experience are  non-vanilla ships.


Call me a moaner or whatever i dont care,i think eagle shoud be scrapped.

100% Aggred with you mate.  I think the eagle is far, far too fast at turning, and it can out turn a WA1 and destroy a Anubis MKII with in 3 - 4 shots.  

Once your flying a Eagle, your target can barely see you and they can barely hit you.  Where is the fun in that?  There is no fun.

I think eagle should be put back to normal too.  Sorry for all the people who love to fly it.  But it's too fast.

Regards,

HH.

answer is simple fly viper ....
i fought vs bersecer (he in eagle) i in viper well the forces is same
or its just your probs if you cant outturn that thingy....
btw on HHC everyone (almost) fly eagles and they are cool but not here ...

dunno what to say more ....

It actually makes no difference to me - in Eagle i can kill any1 in my way....


But when fighting against it it's too hard.

[quote="SIHILL";p="166554"]i have  idea:maybe Strail can make one ship only(for VHF and HF) in different skins.The same parameters,slots,setup etc. [/quote]

you will have only 3 ships  :D

some ppl need a larger diversity

This server will turn like all server with orginal freelancer not moded. Only eagle-s ships will be in space and no others ships.

[quote="NoMaadd";p="166542"]answer is simple fly viper ....
i fought vs bersecer (he in eagle) i in viper well the forces is same
or its just your probs if you cant outturn that thingy....
btw on HHC everyone (almost) fly eagles and they are cool but not here ...

dunno what to say more ....[/quote]

Hmmm i have viper and it cant turn as fast as eagle,only crow can.

well the eagle in the last mod was slowed down because of this problem. from what i understand it is back to its normal high speed self it has not been boosted. this will probly be changed just like the last time.

i do agree with you also that the new ships should out fly the old ships the ideal that the void has came from 2015 to 2112 to 2115 and no ship has improved in over a hundred years does seem a little wierd. the new ships should have more speed and handle better. or at least you would think that ships biulders would have looked for way to improve all ships. i would like to see an anubis mk3. the monkeys update to their 100year old ship.

i know strail does not like messing with ships as much as modding but there are some very good ship designers on the server who could help.  

i guess my point is dont get impatient strail will always balance the server back out if he feels that it is out of balance.

Agreed with Liman. Eagle is simply too fast, and in my opinion, it's ruining a very sense of Freelancer, and The Void Server - fun. I also know about Eagle's weak points, but this is only a theory. In practice u have small chance to win pvp flying on example Anubis MK2.

For me ships on VOID were pretty much well balanced,i hope it will be the same with those new ships which are supposed to come in next versions of 2115 mod.Its just eagle that is off balance (and TC with its bug).

Eagle One has the handle on it.  There is a problem with the EAGLE at the moment and it is looking at being fixed. Patience Please.  Now - in the interests of fair play, I would request that you dont all go running off to by EAGLES due to a "bug" in the mod.  This should be treated the same way as the commodity and engine bugs should have been treated.  Show your commom sense wait for the fix.   Thanks

BSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!BSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!BSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Eagle it's like in the old mode(dunno whici 1 ) When i got on void thea eagle was this fast AND THIS COOL!!!

it's your problem if u get pwned by a beter player in eagle.
U can kill eagle realy fast.but u have to know how!

So pLS dont slow down thea eagle!!!!!

Well, I agree it is very hard to fight against eagle, especially when there is a good pilot with it. I see since eagle is again that fast as it used to be before there are just few people who can kill me. If you know how to fly with this ship, in hands of skilled pilot its nearly unkillable ship. Anyway do not forget for disadvantages of this ship, it's very weak, it is not so hard to hit of course eagle never can be in your back coz you are dead. For me hitting eagle is far more easier than hit WA1 or viper. Torps, missiles, CD's, mines..thats all work very well against eagle. You just have to learn how to fight against faster but more weak ship than is yours.

And very important thing..projectile speed of nomad lasers is still 1200 m/s. 80 % of eagle pilots use sniper weapons - the nomad lasers. Problem always has been the speed of these weapons, I think they are easy to use..and now in combination with eagle its nightmare for non-eagle pilots. I am sure when speed of lasers will be decreased to 900 m/s it will be a lot harder for snipers at all, and for sniper eagle pilots too. They will overturn you of course but hitting with 900 m/s speed of sniper guns is something different.

This situation was here some time before..there were some great pilots who were nearly unkillable with eagles. Like now there were ppl who didnt like it. Admins tried to solve problem and they decreased speed of eagle. Nom. lasers are still at 1200. But it doesnt solve problem with some good sniper pilots, these days too.

I think now its time to try something another..dont change speed of eagle but decrease speed of nomad lasers and we can see what it will bring.

And dont forget..good pvper will kill you as in anubis as in eagle..doesnt matter on ship but matter on skill. Or in another style said..if u are better than ur opponent u will kill him with eagle or with anubis too, doesnt matter..

I like eagle..I was flying this ship since I started on this server..for me flying with eagle is like art, may be it sounds little crazy but u really have to know how to fly with it. Anyway if there will be a lot of ppl pwning with eagles and admins will decrease speed of this ship again we will accept it and adapt, I am sure  :)

[quote="Zebulon";p="166726"]Eagle One has the handle on it.  There is a problem with the EAGLE at the moment and it is looking at being fixed. Patience Please.  Now - in the interests of fair play, I would request that you dont all go running off to by EAGLES due to a "bug" in the mod.  This should be treated the same way as the commodity and engine bugs should have been treated.  Show your commom sense wait for the fix.   Thanks[/quote]

Question: Will you ban people for flying eagles?