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a night with Black Legion

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 3:19 am
by LIMAN
First of all let me say that this is a flaming post lol.
Some flaming is needed in order to show people how not to play Freelancer or any game for that matter.

Black Legion and some R in their group using medic during the battle,even when it was 4 to 1.

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And then off course accusing  me  and Osiride of cheating.Usual thing when fighting Black Legion.Every time we fight them we get called:cheaters,lagers,regeners etc.

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Do not expect gf from me.

@ Server staff
Before you lock this topic please correct me if im wrong but i seem to recall that calling player a cheat in game is possible bannable offense.

Re: a night with Black Legion

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 3:38 am
by =ESF=XENON
Since it's gonna be locked anyway very soon , then i want to say my view about the above Screenshots.
This is a very irrespectable phrases about cheat - it's not when anyone beats you is a cheat
good luck with your problems 4S and BL.

Regards,
XENON

Re: a night with Black Legion

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 5:57 am
by Gannon
you have your right to an opinion liman     i wont lock this topic because of that  



But i remind people to keep it on an adult level    !   to avoid such possibilities

Re: a night with Black Legion

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 6:06 am
by Retribution
Well m8, I wasnt in any of them, nor there last night, but I aint never seen a member of BL regen during a fight, If i ever find out they have I'll be untagging my chars faster than you can say REGENER!

Gotta be carful about accusing people of regening tho, especially in lag, it does some real strange things, Ive seen a guys shield go from nothing to full and when I asked him n scanbed him he still had full bots n bats  :-?

As for the other stuff, only Zeus can answer that. Although I  have already posted about calling people cheats both here on on BL's private forums.

Re: a night with Black Legion

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 7:56 am
by Maverick
However there is no clear accusation of cheating in the screenies, the insinuation is clearly there. Saying "Use your Uber-speed" does insinuate you would be using some kind of cheat and I can imagine you are experiencing that as an accusation for cheating, which in fact would be close to the same as an actual accusation. In fact, typing it this way, is just a way to accuse someone from cheating, without actually including the word 'cheat' into it.

I will be honest here. I have seen remarks like that before, and it is not something I stand for. No matter who types them. In any case it gives the receiver an uncomfortable feeling and the idea that the other players see you as a cheat. Apart from the question whether the accused player would actually be cheating or not, we all know that accusations - and remarks which insinuate the same - should never be done.

I do not support this kind of 'insinuations' at all. Let me be clear: If it would be a Reaver saying this, rest assured he would already been ejected from the clan. But situations like this is exactly why Reavers still try to keep open system chat to a minimum. And if any member should feel tempted to engage in something like that, there's a /mute command that can deal with that.

The 'medicking'. Is it allowed? Sure it is. Is it honorable? Mmmm, not sure. When you look at it objectively, asking for a medic is a way to get your full hull and shield back without having to use your nanobots and shieldbatteries, and - very important for some players - not loose a frag either. Having to face the opponent again after he un-docks again, with just a bit of your hull left, will give the opponent a clear advantage and would therefore increase the risk of him beating you, and you would loose a frag. Some players don't want to give their opponent this advantage. The same reason why player planet-dive. So it's the same as planet diving in my view. Regenning without actually using the bats and bots.
Same as with the insinuations: I do consider this to be dishonorable, and again, when a Reaver would be seen doing this, we would at least have a word with him.

Grouping up with a Rogue. Well I think I could keep this one short. It's not allowed and not at all in the spirit of the Rogue RP char. I have seen it so many times and addressed people on it too. It shouldn't be done, end. I see it as a bad way of playing RP. Again, no matter who does it.


In all honesty Liman: I can't blame you for posting this. I might have done the same if it were to happen to me. And regardless of the fact that the players shown in the screenies, are some of my friends here (at least in an RP-way), my opinion remains the same.
If I were fighting players who medic-ed, and were grouped up with a Rogue, and on top of that would insinuate that I would be using some sort of cheat, I would not be amused either. So I don't blame you for posting this. Especially since I assume this isn't the first time you have seen this. I wouldn't want to be addressed this way in game, and neither should any player.

I hope you can sort out your differences.

EDIT:
I just can't see how this can add to a positive gaming experience for anyone.

Re: a night with Black Legion

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 8:01 am
by -Wolfie-
im not reading this, its a flaming post %-(  %-(  %-(

Re: a night with Black Legion

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 9:12 am
by Vexxxer
[quote="MAVERICK";p="194665"]...Grouping up with a Rogue... It's not allowed and not at all in the spirit of the Rogue RP char. I have seen it so many times and addressed people on it too. It shouldn't be done, end. I see it as a bad way of playing RP. Again, no matter who does it....[/quote]

HARHARHARR!...
How would you
* ^@$#$% * be knowing the spirit of a  :x rogue silly Reaverboy?
I detest the judgment from the easy comfort of your clan.  :x Rogue  RP is not set by your
* ^@$#$% * rulebook, be cursed!

For anyone who wants to team-up with a   :x rogue, be sure to know:
it is at your own risk. No deeper pitfall than this most daring and noblest of trades.

Re: a night with Black Legion

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 9:12 am
by Burn
[quote="-Wolfie-";p="194667"]im not reading this, its a flaming post %-(  %-(  %-([/quote]

Weren't you [R]Venator-2015? (just a wild guess) becasue of the 2015 wich reminds me of another char of yours.

Back on topic:

Another nice example of the abuse of the [R] tag and it's negative influence on players attitude.
The 3d Systems and the [R] tag are the two "gravediggers" for this server!
Long live the Void!

Merry Christmas!

Re: a night with Black Legion

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 10:03 am
by Vexxxer
HAGHGHAGGHARR!!

[quote="Burn_Baby_Burn";p="194677"]...negative influence on players attitude...[/quote]

Your mirror broken, boy? HAGHGHAGGHARR!!

Re: a night with Black Legion

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 10:32 am
by Osiris
hehehe liman for this BL talk me then you need, i'll be happy of to kill :D

and now for the cheat part:  it is ridiculous becouse when BL kill me is alwais GF but if i kill BL i'm cheater lol it say all! :D

for uber speed part (in really i dont know what is that) i'm sure with all my missle spam i dont need to cheat! and you can come and check me when you want! it is the same for you??? BL many time i was fallow you for kill you before in cruise then in enginekill for to do my speed fast and truster but i dont know how, i lost you for your speed all the time and you say it is for the lag.......of the server........check this lol never see it on other players! lol
Now lets fight in game and not chattting lol

(Zeus i wait you in space for some pvp's, then you will check if i'm an cheater)

cya in space brothers for fight and fun..... :D

Re: a night with Black Legion

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 10:35 am
by Osiris
waaaaaaaaahhhhhwwwwww Vexxxer very nice avatar  =P~
:D  :D  :D

Re: a night with Black Legion

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 10:53 am
by LIMAN
[quote="MAVERICK";p="194665"]
I just can't see how this can add to a positive gaming experience for anyone.[/quote]

Well as i already sad this is to show people how not to play Freelancer.
If players stop to behave like that it would be a positive thing.

Re: a night with Black Legion

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 11:13 am
by Retribution
Well hang on a min this is all getting a bit squewed, like its all BL...

But it aint, we have a wall of shame on our private forums of MANY MANY people not just insinuating but outright blatently calling us cheats.

So ill just leave you with this -

BEFORE YOU POST - DO WE HAVE A SCREENIE OF YOU ON OUR FORUMS?

Re: a night with Black Legion

Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 11:58 am
by Retribution
Like I said

People who live in glass houses shouldnt throw stones  :)