Freelancer - The Void

I asked this question in another thread but it got a bit glossed over in the other topics being discussed. If a pirate should not be docking at "lawful" bases, how does a pirate clan go about getting battle ships like the "lawful" clans can get? No "unlawful" planets I have seen have docking moors in place, yet even the NPC "unlawfuls" have battleships. This represents an unfair advantage to the "lawful" roles. Even in the days of old pirates, they captured larger ships to have an equal ground with the forces of the law. Just a question and an observation, not something I am going to get worked up about.

with fresh start you can get a BS even you have pirate X tag in your char
so create a new char properly tagged
then go 'n buy a BS
then ask an admin for pirate repfix, that simple
anyway if you have pirate repfix does not mean you can't be friendly NPC fractions
just have to known how to deal with reputation ;p

Okay, Let me try and re-word this for you. Ezerharden was talking from a role play perspective. If you "play by the nature of role play". Pirates can't properly purchase a battleship, the same way a lawful player can. Of course you can work around the role of a pirate by cheating the system, getting the rep fix. But If you started a new char with the pirate rep, by default you cannot buy a battleship. Perhaps this is something that should be considered in a future mod release.

From a pirate RP point of view...
should pirates be able to buy and operate battleships anyway?
They are (or should be) top-notch highly expensive strictly military gear. Even if a pirate could get one- where would he get the spare parts? The huge amount of whatever fuel they need? The dozens- or hundreds- of well trained crews it needs to operate them?
As pirate, you live on the fringe of society. There will be powerfull individuals who may have acess to some top-notch tech (i.e. modern fighters), there may be mechanical genuisses who can repair them, but battleships require much more manpower.

Think of piracy nowadays...most are equipped with fast, small boats. And/or cheap ones. They (to my knowledge) don't have aircraft carriers and/or battleships (at least I hope so).

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Becker

I think that only the Corsairs and Outcast are able to have 1 or 2 battleships...these 2 pirates factions are the most powerfull...But no way for a rouge or X to command and supply a battleship...maybe a gunboat for very high cost...

Well you have drug cartels that own whole airfields and a few rather large planes, mafias that control top notch technology, etc. As to the number of people required, Planet Malta as an example has an entire world population devoted to the cardamine trade so there are "people" to man these ships. I mean realistically, no clan here has enough real people to man a BS, they rely on NPC's to man them with one real player commanding it.

Pirtes faction also have BS as do nomads. As to spare parts, ever hear of the black market? Or raiding military supply lines and stealing the cargo? None of these are outside the realm of possibility or reason.

Ok true...but for maintaning a BS u need a shipyard...or a space dock...

Ezerharden is 100% right. Where should be suposed to be builded the Pirate Destroyer? One thing is buying a "second hand" ship and another one is build it up.

In fact, the "first/second hand" purchases is one thing that I'm missing in this game. You buy for one price and sell cheaper as second hand. Obvious. But it could be great if we could be able to buy a second hand ship for a cheaper price, with less armor or so, idk., as it were damaged or something.

Hmmm..., interesting, I'm out of topic, but..., imagine: let's put as exemple my old Skipping Stone. It's just a dromy with new and better features, and also a new name. Now let's create a new entry for the same ship, but this time worse features and "second hand" named. It seams easy.

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Hmmm..., interesting, I'm out of topic, but..., imagine: let's put as exemple my old Skipping Stone. It's just a dromy with new and better features, and also a new name. Now let's create a new entry for the same ship, but this time worse features and "second hand" named. It seams easy.[/quote]

Makes a lot of sense.

Nah keep everything the same and instead of making them cheaper second hand ships, make them more expensive black market ships.

Grand Theft Battle Ship, Hijacking from an RP standpoint of course.

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well if Pirates want to keep their RP it's mean

- you can't land on lawfull bases
- you can't buy ships manufactured by lawfull corporations
- you can't buy equipment manufactured by lawfull corporations
- you can't use jumpgates
- you can't create even a character XD

coz these are the things what pirate NPCs can't do in this game

so....

Well then,

- you can't land on unlawful bases
- you can't buy ships manufactured by unlawful corporations
- you can't buy equipment manufactured by unlawful corporations
- you can't use jumpgates owned by unlawful

coz these are the things that lawful NPCs can't do in this game


Only seems fair, no?

so prplhze

You are serious mate?
I didnt said i have problem with current state of RP
and im the last one who want to teach anybody about how to keep it
Just want to share with you the fact, there is noone can keep 100% RP here
You will see respawn wars are everywhere
Hope this will change in time

btw, I'M EVIL, so.....
whats my rules supossed to be then about these things? XD

Maybe we should working on ports at unlawfull planets?