Hmmm, i think I didn´t explain myself very well...
Take the knights ship for example, the MK:
It would be available to everyone with the original green texture, and it would also be available to Knights members with the special Knight texture that you (Carter) made (cue another chance to say how great Carter is.... Carter, you are GREAT ).
The only problem I see with this solution is that instead of 10 new ships there would be 20 new ships, because each ship would have two versions (clan and freelancer), and I don´t know if that would be a bit too much for the server.
Carter don't get discouraged ! sure clan wants to stand out with their own ships but they can still stand out with the skin and that should be enough
i mean in real world anybody can buy anything after that it's just a question of customization...
if you make the ships available for everyone but makes them more clan proprietary like the name, the history, the place to buy and the price that goes to the clan, everyone gets something
for the logo: when you say line up do you mean just put the logo somwhere or something more complicated?
if you put the logo saiy on the nose and a design on the wing does they need to be lined up ?
the skin for each ship is a 2D unwrapped tempate for a certain ship. If i put a logo on the noise of one ships it not going to be the same for the next ship since they are all diffrent. So i would have to make two sets for skins for each ship. Not that don't mind doing everything i can for the server but this would be alot of work.
As for the ships i'm perficaly fine with them being sold to all. The more people that enjoy them thats good. I'm a bit upset because no matter what is decided it seems someone is going to be unhappy.
Here is my idea:
Based on what i have read so far. Why don't i remove the text on each ship. So they are not labled as being part of a specific clan. Each ship though will be sold on the clans planet and keep it history info card and be seen as a ship designed buy the clan but avalable to all. (example the conquer designed by the robot but sold to all) this way the ships will still be tied to the clan but just the design. I'll keep certain design elements like graphics just like the monkey ship has the sun design on it. So this way i think the most people will be happy. If there are clans that are really against this idea let me know.
Hey Carter, that sounds like a pretty good compromise. You are absolutely correct in that there will always be someone who is not happy. I will admit that I voted for "Clan Only" ships but, I like this option!! I would be interested in hearing from the designers on this option. It's important that their voice be heard and understood.
That´s fine with me Carter...It´s probably the best way to go...keep the clan textures on the ships and make them available to all.
I don´t think clan people will be too unhappy about it, and besides, most freelancers will probablly not want to fly a ship with a clan tag, even thou they are allowed to.
So...my point is, use the clan ships as they are now, and make them available to everyone.
I will go with the idea to just have the ship design specific to a clan, and leaving the actual clan name off. That whould be the best way to make them available to all.
1st i want to thank carter and sho3z for their hard work, but this is starting to get very complicated, and the arguments are going round in circles. I don't know much about modding, but i think this idea of differant skins for each clan, which are applied when you buy a ship sounds like a lot of extra work for admins / modders. I like the idea of the clans that have proven themselves not to be a flash in the pan to have their own ship, as carter says, it will give these clans a deffinate identity. I have flown a few of these ship in testing, and there are some very nice ships, Only 1 of which i will be able to fly cus thats our clan ship. No small lose, i like our clan ship, we put a lot of ideas into that ship, like most it has logos, and decals for our clan. if you were in a differant clan would you want to fly a ship covered in the logos of another clan? If you are a freelancer would you want a ship with BBB all over it, i think not.
So what are our options?
1 not have clan ships at all..simplest option
2 have clan ships available to none clanners for a vastly increased price. lots of work for modders, and admins.
3 have differant skins for non clanners on the ships, more work for modders and admins.(can be combined with point 2).
these seam to be the options that have been suggested so far, as i have said i'm not a modder or an admin, i think the best solution is to make all the clan ships available for say 200 mil, at a place where any1 can buy it, but clan leaders can petition admins to assign their clan ship to players for free, the player profile is just edited, but if it is sold you only get say 1 mil for it.
i hope that this sounds like a good compromise, cus it means that if your not in a particular clan you gotta work for that ship, but it is available to you if you really want it. This could be roleplayed by having a planet that belongs to a group of ship rustlers, that steal ships from production lines for resale, hence the inflated price.
However this gets resolved matters not to me, as I just want to get to start flying our new clan ship..... As I am sure everyone is very excited for new mod.
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Ok well it sounds like the best course of action is to keep the ships the way they are and make them avalable to all with the pice increase to non clan memebers. I think that will work for everyone.
I am new to the server and enjoying this mod. I think we have to make a decission now (not ME, i am new ).
I really like the idea of all clan ships have the clan texture, and make it available to ALL players, BUT for a really high price.
One more suggestion for the server:
Let each clan have their homebase somewhere in the regular systems, not a system nmed clansystem, NOBODY comes there, at least as far as i have seen.
It would be more fun when clan A has his home base in Leeds, Clan B Manhattan, Clan C Stuttgart, etc.
BTW, i remembered thinking (before reading about new ships) everyone flying the same (best) ship. It is really fun to be different on the server, so in that way new ships are great!
Hmm another thing:
What about letting the clan design their own skin for the ship? SO if Knights clan decide the clan ship will be SHIP X, they can make their own skin or let a friend make it. Is that possible?
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