To All Clan Leaders Regarding AoF Diplomacy

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To All Clan Leaders Regarding AoF Diplomacy

Post by geromix »

Hello to all clan leaders and otherwise :D  

As u would have noted already AoF has now pirate amidst its ranks and right now there is major upheaval and confusion in VOID circles regarding diplomacy with AoF .

The problem being-

AoF X Wing.

I Have a Humble Request and Plea For All Clan Leaders In Void- :-SS

Please Make a separate diplomacy for AoF X Wing which should be different from the diplomacy of AoF Main Body comprising of AoF T and A Wing.

I Will Give u the reasons why-
1)AoF is Not a Clan!!!!-

AoF-Alliance of Freelancers is an association of freelancers.In the past we did not represent pirates of Void but now we have decided to represent them by forming a separate wing.
It is more of a guild than a clan with the presence of tags being the difference.
Tag only shows he is affliated with AoF and nothing else.He may or may not follow AoF common diplomacy.
It was created on the basis of freedom for freelancers.
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2)AoF Doesnt Have a Common RP-

By Creating X Wing AoF is not becoming a Pirate Clan!!!

We have many dedicated Traders in our ranks.

We had and never will have a common RP so that AoF remains open to all freelancers.

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SEPARATE AND AUTONOMOUS-

AoF X Wing is an autonomous wing of AoF.It is more of an extension of AoF rather than the main wing.

It will have its leaders.
It will have its own diplomacy which will be separate from AoF diplomacy for T and A Wing.

AoF A and T Wing comprise the AoF Main Body.
The X Wing is as said above an extension!!!!

Moreover AoF Alpha Fighter Wing that is A Wing for normal freelancers will not mingle with X Wing.!!!The two will never assist each other in battle.

Naturally u will ask what would happen in a war between one friend of AoF that is navy and other friend of AoF X Wing that is Pirate then =AoF Will remain inert.
As it is AoF cannot go to war together becasue it is not a clan but an assoication with various different reasons.


I hope with the above reasons furnished above Clan Leaders will take of my Plea to split their AoF Diplomacy into half one for AoF Main Body and other for its X Wing.

Its my humble request the rest depends on u.

Please understand what AoF is and what it stands for.

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Re: To All Clan Leaders Regarding AoF Diplomacy

Post by Trinoone »

I only have 1 question....
If the X wing is totally separated from the other wings,
can this wing be KOS-ed?
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Re: To All Clan Leaders Regarding AoF Diplomacy

Post by Berserker »

Yeah, you are mostly traders, pirates should be your biggest enemies together with rogues if I am right..  
Now.. will you be neutral to pirates just because they have same tag before nick as you ?
:-?

Anyway we have decided our stance, check your PM's then

EDIT

Och, one another thing I forgot..

AoF - Alliance of Freelancers

Hm correct me someone if I am wrong but I think pirates aren't freelacers.

For me freelancers are pilots without any tag in nick. If he has [X] in name he isn't freelancer for me but he's pirate so why he has also tag of freelancers. Just thought
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Re: To All Clan Leaders Regarding AoF Diplomacy

Post by Ghosty »

that dosent matter , the AoF have an awesome name , are awesome and they should continue with this plan as it has been well thought out and well executed. good luck AOF A , T and X wings. good luck geomix , greta plan m8.  =D>
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Re: To All Clan Leaders Regarding AoF Diplomacy

Post by Hash »

Yes, I think it's very easy.

We're traders. And we trade everything with everyone. That means I can have many bad encounters with police trading cardamine (f.ex.  :D  ). If I ask for escort to our fighters I'll need a pirate wing. Obvius. And against pirates I'll need our A wing.

And we still neutral. We won't attack if you don't. Remember this from our history:

[AoF] Operation:  We Fight.We Trade.  (...) We are about protecting our assets and making a profit. We will talk to anyone who wants to make money.  We will be your friend if the price is right. We will be your enemy if there is a profit to be made. This is a fluid and flexible market. We will bribe, persuade, coerce, support, betray, kill, make war or make peace if it is to our advantage and ultimate profit. We can be bought off - if the price is right. All negotiations will be kept mostly at a PM level with very little being revealed to all. You will all know something about [AoF] but never everything. Where possible we will try to remain strictly neutral - unless it is to our advantage and profit. We want to see the colour of your money.


Tell me if I'm wrong, but it's very simple.  :D

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Re: To All Clan Leaders Regarding AoF Diplomacy

Post by Carthoo »

I like the idea of KOS. Can you ppl do anything more? KOS everything that has more then one leg, two ears and three eyes....and move... . Thats the way. Whoa.


Btw about never assisting A wing....if someone attack A wing or T wing of AoF, the X wing can be paid for assist....that doesn't work on the other side I suppose.
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Re: To All Clan Leaders Regarding AoF Diplomacy

Post by MajestikOne »

Since BBD's Diplomacy is flexible, we shall allow time to decide where you stand.

If we feel you pose a threat to us, you will be considered hostile.

If you do not hinder us, we will show consideration.
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Re: To All Clan Leaders Regarding AoF Diplomacy

Post by -DESTROYER- »

what if:

[AoF][X]person1 sees [AoF][T]person2, will he tax him?  :-?  will [AoF][A]person3 come to aid [AoF][T]person2?  :-?  :-?  :-?  :-?
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Re: To All Clan Leaders Regarding AoF Diplomacy

Post by Carthoo »

@ Destroyer: Since it is still alliance with some connections, this won't happen probably. But everything is possible....
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Re: To All Clan Leaders Regarding AoF Diplomacy

Post by Zebulon »

WOW! My baby has grown up !  :D

Ok - to answer DESTROYER - Any AoF member, whether T, A or X (oooh that spells TAX)  - will not attack each other or tax each other because they are in the same "association" or "union" if you will.   What it does allow is for AoF to expand its commercial enterprises into the field of Crime and Piracy, but remain a separate entity when it comes to Trading and Fighting.  

Maybe the slogan could read "We Fight, We Trade, We Rob" but I dont think the corporate PR department would allow that - bad publicity and all ...  ;)

I was unable to get my head round the whole X tag for AoF in the early days of my presidency as we were still having problems with the whole "Not A Clan" issue.  Looks like most of the VOID have begun to get into this whole idea and that AoF with Geromix in charge the "Association" has gone from strength to strength.  I ducked out to go startup the -=REAVERS=- but it makes me proud to see the AoF getting stuck into the RP  - which is just as difficult as the RP that -=REAVERS=- have chosen.

KUDOS to you all my friends and well done Geromix!  :D
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Re: To All Clan Leaders Regarding AoF Diplomacy

Post by Rayenden »

To Destroyer

Even though we are pirates ... We have a few differences with common pirates ... that is we will try our best not to attack our own T and A wings and Allies of AOF and in fact might even provide some protection from other pirates as its more likely that they would keep our request since we are of a same kind :D . thats the basic rule for this Pirate wing :D no attacking friends or allies , But also ..... there can be exceptions right :)

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Post by Trinoone »

very well then,good luck to ur new X wing ;)

But just as what Xenon says,this X wing of urs will be in our "Caution"position.
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Re: To All Clan Leaders Regarding AoF Diplomacy

Post by Asmodeus »

The [BBB] will not need to change there Diplomacy with AoF as you are already neutral with us and our diplomacy Stance states that all R and X tagged pilots are potentially KOS.
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Re: To All Clan Leaders Regarding AoF Diplomacy

Post by geromix »

First of all i would like to thank to most of Void who read this and for uunderstanding AoF{Atleast in some parts}

Now to answer ur questions-

@Berserker-
I agree to ur terms and conditions.I will be making a separate post on this one so that AoF members know about it.
My only question to u would be as i put it in my PM to u-Would u attack a player who is in X Wing in his trader char even if he is in his AT?

To answer ur question-AoF-Alliance of Freelancers.
According to me a Freelancer is a player who is not following a single RP.Clans follow only one RP-Order,Navy or Pirate etc.A freelancer according to his own wishes changes his rep when he wants to.
In effect a Freelancer is a master of himself and doesnt want to be a part of a clan.The reason why AoF was built was to service these freelancers who dont want to be in a clan but yet be part of an organisation.
A Freelancer is somebody who is more than someone who doesnt have a tag.
A non-Freelancer player would be part of a clan.
Hence there could be a freelancing pirate.
And ofcourse all rogues are freelancers because they are not part of a clan and can never be in one.I believe that is why server rules are the way it is like now.

AoF is at best an "Alliance" that is subject to many changes,between many freelancers of different RPs.

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@Xenon-Thanks for understanding what AoF is.I would put in my best efforts to make it an exception for X Wing players.

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@Destroyer-
Most probably X Wing members wont tax Traders.Infact that is unlikely to the extent of only 1% chance that could happen.
Like Carthoo said everything is possible.I hope u and 4S_SQUAD understand us.

AoF is at best an "Alliance".
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A Final note-
I have tried my best to make this happen.
And i again appeal to all clans to please please understand us.
This is very complex no doubt that but it is not impossible. :D


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