[X] Tag, and its worthlessness.

[TRIAD-Cobra]

Hey I have an Idea....Every Pirate clan make tagged traders for each member so we can trade and identify our selves. (I have one but never use it) Pirates shut down trading all together, I mean nobody can get a lolly-pop from New Berlin to New Tokyo, New London ect....  So this way only pirates can trade (Period) if anyone else wants to trade they have to pay the Pirates Pension Fund lol. lets say 20 million per month....screw that 100 million (6-7 hours work to be able to trade for a month). With 40 people paying (OR ELSE) thats 24 billion the pirates can split between TRIAD, BBD, Black Legion ect... With this money we can even pay R's to protect the traders while in Alex and kill anything that looks like a trader that has not paid,

By doing it this way it's pofitable for pirates to keep the traders alive rather than R killing them for 200k, R's also get loot basd on their hire rate. Pilots like [R] would probly be the highest paid R there is. Pirates could give the community 30 days to make as much loot and possible and then shut that sucka down.. Want to see some Pirate RP it can happen...lol but I wonder how many people will leave the server when you really see it.

[[X]Thorn[X]]

Thats a perfect idea Cobra but all that has to pass through Strail, TIODS, Frac and the rest of them b4 we can do it, hey server admins and guards is it possible to make a monthly fee for anyone passing in system?

Thorn!

[Troubleshooter]

umm, I havent been taxed once in the three weeks i have been here at the void, not once... every time i see a pirate its already too late,, i am under fire.. so, what do you think i am going to do... if i am going to take a loss so easily, i just fight back, sometimes i make it, sometimes i dont... but i will give it a hell of a try.. every time i see [X] on my radar i hear "incoming missile", this may be one of the problems. I have learned to expect it. what do you think newbies like me are going to expect from now on?

[[X]Thorn[X]]

lol it's the only thing Pirates can do now is kill we ask for tax you attack we kill you we ask for tax again you attack the only person who ever paid tax to me was PI a great friend of mine i don't think he plays here no more but hes a great guy! Said i'm the only true pirate around but thats not really true as many others trie to tax but get attacked so why doesn't everyone just pay it?

[TRIAD-Cobra]

With net code thats so hard coded like freelancer i's almost impossibl to do that without rewriting the game...might as well make Freelancer 3 sense your working on the base code.... Al we need to do this is a 5 minute conversation with the Pirate clans together to work out the kinks.  Sense AOF wants to be an (organization) we can ask them to handle accounting, I would trust Zeb with that ONLY.

[TRIAD-Cobra]

Theres another way to force payment of the 200k as well. There is a mod that deducts credits upon death. so lets say the tax is 200k but if you get killed to lose 500k from your account. that means you loose over 1 million for getting shot while trading. Hell I would have my pirates on direct deposit hehe.

[[X]Thorn[X]]

hahaya FL universe used to have that thing and they had to take it offcause of the IMMORTALS xD but ya the IMMORTALS don't put up a fight what so ever they fall lik flys until they bring out the BS xD

Thorn!

[Zebulon]

@ DIGGER:  Me? Being Loose with the Ban Word? Have you counted how many people I have ACTUALLY banned? lol

The F1 fine was brought in to stop people ducking out and spoiling the fun.  That is precisely what a lot of traders are doing, BUT they make a run for it and wait till they are out of shooting range BEFORE hitting the F1 key, thereby abusing the F1 facility.  Personaly I feel that a short 7 days time out will soon persuade them that this is not a wise option.  In previous posts I warned people that I was becoming less "Mr Nice Guy" cos I have felt that my good nature is just taken advantage of "Dont worry about VOID Zebulon - he wont do anything" seemed to be the prevailing attitude - so the Big Ban Stick comes out and will not be used without some kind of warning.  

F1 Abuse is cheating.  Cheats get banned.  End of argument. Like I said in the post - out run me, dodge me, sell cargo and go under lvl 50 for Alexandria, sit and thumb your nose at me and say "No I will not pay tax"  - but please, PLEASE play the game, cut out the F1 abuse - thats all.

[[X]Thorn[X]]

great post Zeb your right about every bit of it, personaly i'm stating to get a lil sick of Voids attitude but you know what stuff changes and you have to live with it

Thorn!

[kill-phil]

Having used the Pirate tag for a while within clans and alone, I think I have managed to collect tax about
6 times, most players just don't pay, so it seems pointless to ask anymore. It seems the X tag is now just a magnet for navy and hunter clans to attack, but if we are not collecting tax or behaving like rogues why do they bother, gives them something to do i suppose.





[Black_Legion][X]Hood

[Frobozz]

Just to offer some ideas I've tried in the past...

Pirates can be much much more than just about tax and hunting traders, there's lots and lots of pirate factions in FL, adopt one and RP that faction, all the way. I used to  RP as Farmers Alliance on Stock servers, even ones with no RP! Traders going to Ainu (GC) found that they were red with me. Since that's a common route on Stock I had plenty of interaction, not all of it taxing since it really wasn't credz I cared about but rather the RP of my faction! Want some fun? RP an Outcast and try to smuggle card around! Good god, FL offers so many scenarios why don't ppl try some?

I really don't want to RP an [R] thankyouverymuch I had R's on my Evo server they were called [NOMAD] and had, well, u can guess, Nomad stuff and when they invaded a system ALL the 'humans' put aside their differences (temporarily of course) and hunted the Nomads and it was great fun indeed. R's here are not so KOS as my Nomads sorry to say.

When I was on Void before, almost a year ago, there were way WAY too many lazy 'pirates' who would just hang around the 'Five Gates' and that always seemed cheezy to me, sorry, so it's no surprise when I come back that there's a lvl 50 threshhold in alex you understand what I mean I hope, so quit complaining about alex it's the fault of those  lazy 'pirates' ?

If you're a trader and an X is on your radar and you hear 'incoming missile' well just MAYBE that's a CD, eh? I usually fire that 1st to get yer attention, it don't mean I'm gonna kill you don't start shooting or F1 I'm likely in chat typing "tax" OK? Unless I'm at war or  KOS or fired on, I never shoot to kill  first.

[DIGGER]

Sure u cant ban a trader for f1 ing what about new players hav no idea get scared when bein shot at come if u banned the players that f1ed the server would get more empty than it already is geting. upto u if u think banning em is gonna help ban away m8 but look at the stats dont u think we sufferin enough now the global server gone. anyway back on topic. Bring back over lvl 20 in alex may help a little .

[URAMI]

[quote="Frobozz";p="156614"]R's here are not so KOS as my Nomads sorry to say.[/quote]

Well I can say I don't know what your nomads are like but I can say this from my own personal experience here...

I am KOS to everyone on this server.  I can't go anywhere without being shot at or shooting at someone.  

EVERYONE on this server HATES my [R] and I LOVE it!  ;)

[URAMI]

Wow page 3 already.... hmm what was that again...... hmmm oh yea that's right I remember now

BE A ROGUE!!!!!!!  :D

[Frobozz]

The [Nomads] on my Evo server were players who would RP the aliens. This was a special 'clan' that messaged only other Nomads, on system chat they'd post nonsense as 'aliens' the 'humans' weren't supposed to understand them. They were red to every player on the server and ppl would come from all the nearby systems to beat back the 'invasion'. Not quite the same as R's as they wouldn't be lone wolves. That's my point I guess, not everyone can RP that lone wolf way. I guess Reavers RP is similar RP AFAK but since a new mod is in the works I'd just throw that out there so the capability of Nomad player characters are in the mod cuz I would like to see that here. Hope that clarifies.

Oh, and a bit off topic but the Nomad B.S. should be the only B.S. that freelancers can't obtain.