[X] and [R] RP Wake-up call

[[BLK_LGN][X]Zeus]

Point 6....might need to be elaborated on

[Recca-dono]

about roleplay, some clans should automatically be hostile to some factions and some ships they shouldnt be able to buy, if you are a pirate then you shouldnt be able to use WA1 which is a navy ship, but you should be able to use ships from factions that are "neutral" such as monkeys etc. What I basically mean is I, who am member of fithers should be hostile to all navy factions and their associates, I shouldnt even be able to fix rep or use their ships, in this way roleplay gets easier....also I request that in upcoming mod you add a counterpart ship to viper/wa1 for pirates only.. and if we are going to have roleplay at all then everyone really has to do it, u cant ignore it^^

[Travesty]

I think that what you have so far is fine Zeb. Any rule set provided for players needs to be short and sweet yet to the point. Maybe one more at the end stating that any 'rule lawyers' will get their proverbial butts handed to them by all and sundry.
I have from day one tried to play my role here as my clan membership dictates so I don't relish the idea of wearing rp  tags; my clan tag should be enough for bad guys to realise that I'll probably take a pop at them as I expect in return. For instance last night I fired on a pirate and after sending him to davey jones' locker he asked me why I had done it as he thought we were friends. I have spoken to the guy before and he seemed like a nice enough chap so, saft git that I am, I did feel a little guilty. Still, my reply was short and to the point, 'I'm a navy pilot you are a pirate.
Perhaps in adition to the welcome message about r and x pilots killing folks there should also be a message saying that bad guys should expect to be fired on by navy.
I love the open ended attitude to the game that we have here. I am a little worried that the inclusion of an rp system will cause segregation. People will, I think, start to see the Void as an rp server and those just wanting to come on and enjoy a fantastic mod will be deturred from doing so to the detriment of the server.
I and many of the people I play with here am able to distinguish whether or not to be extreme in rp, as I am sure 99% of the player base is also. But I think more emphasis needs to be payed to letting clan members know what they are in for when joining such and such a clan. If clan leaders payed a little more attention to laying out the roles they have taken on in creating a clan with such anf such a tag then this will go a long way to smoothing out the rp situation.
There have been some good and valid points raised in this thread but still even after 7 pages it represents a splash in the ocean in regards to the overall player base opinion. As my good pal Frac has said, what ever gets decided, you will not be able to please every one.

[Maverick]

Zeb:
I think you got a nice list there. As Trav said, it has to be short and to the point, so that everyone can understand it and there can be no disputes and misunderstandings. However: I also agree with Trav that there should be a final point saying that the conduct of RP players will be observed and punished if not performed as it should. A firm hand in this will also do its part in keeping things clear for everyone.

Trav: I think we can keep this a RP as well as a non-RP server. All we need is a firm hand in maintaining proper RP behavior and some simple but clear rules as posted above.
Only the players who wish ti commit to RP, would have to sign it, and only those will be held accountable for their actions. In my opinion this would be clear enough for anyone.
Please let me know what you think.

I thought that this thread had faded to the background, and I bumped it to see what would happen. Good to see some guys still putting thoughts in here. Thanks.

MAV

[Travesty]

What I would like to know is if there are any servers who have managed to incorporate such a system and whether or not it was succesful. The only reason I say I'm a little worried is that by bringing something like this into play it would create a divide between non rp and rp players. And after seeing the constant tug of war thats been going on for the last few years between these 2 mind sets I have this horrible feeling that tears would appear in the fabric of the player base with two disperate groups pulling in either direction.
I don't want to be thought of as a nay sayer I'm just considering both sides. In an ideal world this would run without a hitch, lol we wouldn't even need to be talking it through. For this to work properly, I refer back to Frac once more, those involved need to take control.
Anyway I will now digress, though not completely  ;) , to the trader problem. For the whole pirate rp thing to work there needs to be a certain amount of trading to be going on; otherwise you just end up with loads of bored x's flying round killing stuff for the sake of it. I know that a lot of people were dead set agaiinst the old nomad shield trade runs but this was a god send for rp. All the talk lately of how amasing 2015 was I think boils down to the trade run. With it came an explosion in pirate activity with plenty of easy pickings out there. And it was a loooong old haul giving pirates plenty of time to track down prey. Now as far as I know at the moment theres only these short runs making around 2 mil max 2 ways and this I think is bad for the rp side of pirates/traders. A trader is more likely to try and run for it if hes only gunna lose a little bit of cash.

[Zeus]

It took me 40 min to read all but this is good thread.
I agree that all RP players need to have their licence. As I sayed many times (probably) we are new here (Fither) and when I go in space I don`t know who will attack me just by reading their tag. So I wait to see and in 90% first attack is lethal to me.
Also what is that being evil and pirat??? That is not a same. When I was traiding in a char without tag I was killed few times from a player with a tag withour worning or asking for tax. I know that members with that tag are pirate clan but they act like R. I asked in system if they are pirates and got answer "yes". I asked than why do you act like rougues. Answer was "because we are evil". What would be if someone chose to be Evil Navy?! Why not! To hunt X and kill traders for fun.
This I can promise. Fithers have been pirates from the begining and we will procede like that. Every Fither will have pirat licence. All players that would like to go thru Dyson will have to pay tax (as soon as we get our base there). Every player that pay tax will be protected in Dyson by Fither clan for 24 hours. We played like this on old servers.

The most important trhing. Clan leaders of all clans here can sit down and make agreements about OUR RP. Why to wait for admins to make their move?! By doing our RP we don`t break any rule. We can set a meeting date so we can discuss it. We can make rules about RP. Our clan members will follow it or be punished by clan leaders.
Some clan leader from older VOID clan can set up a date for that meeting if you like the idea.

Sorry for confused post. I read this tread at once and that made this post look like this.

Best regards,
Zeus

[Travesty]

Some clans have their diplomacy listed in their sections here on the Void. But why not make a thread where every clan states their rp and then add a link on the homepage in bold text. That way if you're not sure you can just check.

[Maverick]

Another fair point. Trav's idea might be a good one. Maybe even make a separate RP section on the forums, as suggested before. In addition to that, ZEB:

You might wanna add another point to your list stating that it is mandatory for every player who wishes to commit to RP to buy the appropriate license in NY. This way it will be a lot more clear to new players what their RP is.

Sorry for the short reply. I'm off to bed now.

So added to the 'action list':

- Create RP section/thread on forum;
- Add license point to Zeb's list.

[Blackheart-X-]

Just a little *BUMP* to see whats happening with the ideas mentioned.

[Stargazer]

Hmmmm.....Pirate RP needs a boost.....hmmmm .  Well I am happy to annouce clan [RPG] will be returning to the Void.  After a year or so of not doing to much of anything I think I will fit nicely into my old anubis as will my squad.  The formal announcement and recruitment is coming soon, but not fully ready yet.

Pirates once rules this server in the glory days...now its time to have that part of the cycle back!

[mightybean]

I am in ORION, but the character that I have had since long before I joined ORION is secretly trafficking Cardamine and is in the good books with the Outcasts now. So anybody thats in The Order, look for "mightybean.". Hes a baddie  :) .

BRING BACK RP! I love it, and if it goes entirely I'm going to be a sad sad boy.