How about a little proposal

[Ripper]

Well here we go,

Void's been pretty much a PITA to play on lately. There's 50 3D systems, which I believe cause a truckload of lag.

What I'm suggesting is that you put the Void 2112 mod back until the new one is finished, as the server was a lot more stable then.

They're all bigger than Alexandria, Sparta and Babylonia put together, so in their current (empty) state they're pretty much pointless to have.

What I was thinking of is, delete 45 of those systems, put trade runs and ships in the 3D systems, and when everything is done put the 2115 mod back in use.

I'm sure the server will be more stable, and therefor you WILL get a higher player count.

Since the hardware or connection isn't the problem, (You bought a new machine just a while ago) all the stuff that has been going on is mod related from my point of view.

Also another thing I wanted to ask for are the Rampages/Amoks/Godlikes. Is there a way to put them back? The frags are pretty much pointless at the moment as they keep resetting on a weekly basis.

I know the frags come with the FLAC, and that there would be no commands if you reverteb back to the old version, but there are servers with commands and have no frags. Plus, the frags have made PVP more of a stressful competition than a fun way to relax.


Soo, think about this, It'll probably go in the trash bin anyway, but from where I'm standing, it would do good for the server and it's population.


EDIT: Also, another thing are the missions. They worked then, and they were actually worth doing.


Somnium

[Ruggs]

i Know some people who arnt gonna be happy me sayin this but i Agree with everythin u say RIPPER

[Ninja-Jinkaz]

I agree as well them systems are pointless and I would like for mission to worth doing.
I also want the commoditys back in Alexandria the way they were

[-Wolfie-]

heyhey...u know how boring modding can be??

here he comes making new factions weps and commodities only 2 make u happy...and the mod is for FREE!!!

and when he release it...u all like the 3d systems and all that...and suddenly u dont want them?!

FL modding is fun as long ppl appreciate what u release!

[Ripper]

I do appreciate what they released. Although the current state of the mod is not better than the old one.

[Zebulon]

For us of a trader persuasion Big systems work - but I get your drift.  Dont know how easy it would be but those HUGE systems could benifit from some Trade Lanes maybe?  Helps get around a bit quicker with the added option of going "walkabout" off the main drag if you choose to do so.   Its a PITA to get from one spot to the other relatively quickly.  The long time spent in the new 3D systems doesnt give the rewards (both financial and game wise) that we might all benifit from.  Just my thoughts is all.  Sure there are the "regular" systems to mess around in with RP (!) and PvP etc  but it would be cool to develop the use of the other systems - Tartarus seems to do ok out of it - or at least it did when I was last on, which was several weeks ago......In a Galaxy, Far far away.....

[Ripper]

[quote="Zebulon";p="174831"] For us of a trader persuasion Big systems work - but I get your drift.  Dont know how easy it would be but those HUGE systems could benifit from some Trade Lanes maybe?  Helps get around a bit quicker with the added option of going "walkabout" off the main drag if you choose to do so.   Its a PITA to get from one spot to the other relatively quickly.  The long time spent in the new 3D systems doesnt give the rewards (both financial and game wise) that we might all benifit from.  Just my thoughts is all.  Sure there are the "regular" systems to mess around in with RP (!) and PvP etc  but it would be cool to develop the use of the other systems - Tartarus seems to do ok out of it - or at least it did when I was last on, which was several weeks ago......In a Galaxy, Far far away.....

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Hit a nail on the head there buddy.

[Berserker]

Server situation was better when we were running on 2112.

We don't need 50 huge systems..I saw Void map with all these new systems included..ohh sorry but I thought I see map of mod that is full of chaos and pointless things. Mix of nothing.. again we don't need hundreds of systems..better few new ones but really great (current baby or alex for example).

Just my opinion..

[-=Darkness=-]

I agree with u...  :P

[NuclearWinter]

There was some more posts about this already and what exactly changed?  :-?

[Strail]

Void's been pretty much a PITA to play on lately. There's 50 3D systems, which I believe cause a truckload of lag.

Lag isnt caused by systems, its caused by the population in that system and the clients pc and connection and server load overall

What I'm suggesting is that you put the Void 2112 mod back until the new one is finished, as the server was a lot more stable then.

Stable as in ? crashes? currently one per 24 hour period over the last few days - something some other servers would die for.

The issue over the trade runs is as hard work as the issue over making new systems. People always complain about unbalanced trade runs etc etc.

Rampages/Amoks/Godlikes

This is a feature of flhook, not FLAC, as we have gone down the route of anticheat, rather than player features, this is not currently available to us.

frags have made PVP more of a stressful competition

If we removed it we would have a lot of people complaining that we removed it, its a players personal choice to count them or not.

Missions

They continue to be worked on

Player numbers

There is no appetite to return to 100+ players on the server. This causes plenty of grief and stress to both me and the server staff and tbh I have no desire to be back there. Sure we were the first server to publically show and prove 118 players online, however, for me thats a milestone that brought with it too many problems and complaints.

Most people will vote with their feet, however, too many times i have listened to what people want and changed stuff and in the end its bad for the server overall. What I do now is based on what I believe to be best for the server overall - take suggestions and my ideas and mix them in with what I see as the Void vision for the future.

[Headhunter]

[quote="Strail";p="174844"]
Stable as in ? crashes? currently one per 24 hour period over the last few days - something some other servers would die for.[/quote]

I have to agree with Strail at 100% there.

There has not been that many crashes throughout the server from this past week.  It has been running smoother and better than ever before.  Once the 2112 mod was running, there was an odd lag spike on the server, and the lag would last for if not 20 minutes+.  Would you rather having the server crash about once a day or it having lag spikes like the 2112 mod had?

About the 3D systems.  I have said it before and i will say it again.  

They do NOT cause lag.  The only way that they could even dent the server's lag is if there was a lot of players in them.  The servers load is based in players.  The more players that are in the same spot, the more lag it will cause.  It's nothing to do with the 3D systems.

Want less lag?  Move to different systems rather than everyone sitting in the same system all croweded up.  Stop using as much missiles also.  The more missiles that are used in the same place, the more lag that will develope.

Just my view.

[The-Ghost]

[quote="Headhunter";p="174848"]Stop using as much missiles also.  The more missiles that are used in the same place, the more lag that will develope.[/quote]

take hsi advice u misile spammers...lol

anway, i think the mod should stay, alot of work and effort been put in...

[-Wolfie-]

ye...ive made 3D systems on some test mods and havent had  a single lag, when i put very very many NPCs in it lags a little (this is like 40 at same time) but thats FPS

[-=Darkness=-]

Why the fuck do we have so much 3D system`s if no 1 use them...And as i know we are prepare to pay donations for better server not "laggy 1(meny times)"...
I know u have a lot of work and all but its just to laggy most of the time...
1-2 years ago 20-30 ppl was in alex and there was no lagg...
Now 10 ppl in Sparta and its laggy like hell even for those who have 10MB connection  :D  :D  :D  :D  
I dont really know how server works and what is connection of server and all!!!
And 2112 mod was cool...no 3D systems no BS`s we DONT NEED them!
U have develoment team who can make new ships and all...i dont see them eather!
I dont see the different betwen 2112 and 2115 mod...just some new stupid 3D systems and BS`s...
I hope my post will not be deleted "like most of the time when i have right"  :P
I know a lot of work was put in this mod but we need simple mod and i hope the server will work good soon like these week!
Cheers