Withdrawl of troops from Omicron Alpha

[Rayce_Katarn]

"So then traders will enter the system when we're not online. There is absolutely no reason for traders to leave OA. i don't see the point in guarding the JHs." Destroyer
EXACTLY. That's why we want you to guard the JHs. Because we don't care if you do. And 4S_Squad's reason to be there is because you are allied with Dacia, who are there because they are (supposedly) upholding the law.

"Our traders don't trade cardamine, nor do Dacia-s. Why should your traders be treated differently? If a Dacia trader or a 4S trader smuggle cardamine (witch i doubt will happen) - i would shoot at him." - Destroyer
Why should we be treated differently? Dunno... Cause 4S agreed to it, perhaps? It's right there in writing, on YOUR own Clan Diplomacy. 4S is NOT allowed to shoot down Outcasts, unless they are fired upon first. You don't like it, bring it up with your Consilium.

"@The cardamine legal / not legal thing - I absolutely don't care if it's not legal or not. We decided to stop trading / smuggling of cardamine - thats our RP and what we want to do. This is not Discovery RP server - if you want real NPC based RP go there." - Destroyer
Well.... YOU may not care.... But it makes your clan look pretty bad when the reasons it give for being there are illegitimate in the first place >.>

[Zebulon]

My mistake and bad English.  I should have said the Vicitims of the Cardamine Cartel RUN by the Outcasts - sorry not that the Outcasts are the victims themselves...hehe

Traders can come and go as they please - especialy when the navy/army/airforce/police/lawenforcers are not around.  Please dont misunderstand - BOTH parties are entitled to enact their RP  - thats what makes life interesting around here.

Also - nice of 4S to allow us to discuss this on their forum......

[Rayce_Katarn]

Yeah, Zeb is right... My main purpose was to get the RP flowing again XD

So yeah, I do hope to get an RP response from 4S.

See you guys in the Void.

[LIMAN]

[quote="PapaJoe";p="183009"]  If you cant trade cardamine or are unwilling to take the risk in OA then maybe you should look further afield for a source of income.  I know I have and Im keeping mine quiet... hehe.  

I will continue to smuggle or not to smuggle drugs when and where I see fit and the navy can chase me all it likes.  Hey - dont yell at them - it just shows they are being effective in wiping out the drugs trade.  Its a bit like the Columbian Drug Smugglers saying to the Royal Navy in the Caribean - "Please dont chase us, you are spoiling our fun and ruining our income!"  :D

If you were half way effective you would try and eradicate the presence of the law in OA - or at least go find another route or commodity - they are only there cos you are - if you move away they will get bored again and have to change tactics.  

Im a trader and I like to go about my business uninterupted by Navy or Pirates.  While 4S and Dacia are in OA I can be doing naughty things else where - thanks chaps.

<):)[/quote]

What he wrote.
We are just trying to get to the root of the problem,just like Americans in Afghanistan who are destroying poppie fields.Caradamine is made on Malta so....
As for diplomacy......its easy to change it  :D

[-Wolfie-]

Our traders don't trade cardamine, nor do Dacia-s. Why should your traders be treated differently? If a Dacia trader or a 4S trader smuggle cardamine (witch i doubt will happen) - i would shoot at him.

@The cardamine legal / not legal thing - I absolutely don't care if it's not legal or not. We decided to stop trading / smuggling of cardamine - thats our RP and what we want to do. This is not Discovery RP server - if you want real NPC based RP go there.

EHEM...thats not entirely correct...i was pirating earlier 2day and i saw a DACIA that traded cardamine in trade char

[Rayce_Katarn]

...... And look what happened to the Americans >.> Everyone hates them now.... AND they got kicked out of UN.....

That AND they killed lots of civilians.... Is that what you're planning on doing? All your arguments for being there are founded on badly construed thoughts, ideals and misconceptions..... You just keep digging a hole for yourself, further and further....

[-DESTROYER-]

we are army - we like to kill  :P

"Well.... YOU may not care.... But it makes your clan look pretty bad when the reasons it give for being there are illegitimate in the first place >.>"

i sad that those are my own words - my opinion. has nothing to do with my clan.

[BabaRoga]

Well,
[align=justify]here are some informations, which may help you to pass through all this situation. 4S_SQUAD Intelligence provided us with very disturbing informations. Criminal groups have developed extremly dangerous drugs based on Cardamine Artefonus reaction, they have found out that Cardamine can react with special artefacts [revealed last year, in Omega quadrants] creating special bio-chemical compound. After facing the evidences it was obvius that Atalampia disaster has been connected with this matter. That's all what we can say at this "very" moment.

As you can see, only high sophisitcated, strong and organized Galactic Fleets and Empires can deal with this new threat. All mankind civilisations are in terrible danger, all mankind civilisations need any rational step,...so, ....Join our Glorious Fleet and protect humanity. Don't waste time.[/align]

[-Wolfie-]

lmao...im a pirate...and its allready ready xD

[Evilfish]

Right, to sum this topic up...
OA belongs to Outcasts
Therefore, Outcasts rules apply in Outcasts system
Cardamine, within Outcasts rules, is not considered contraband, you know, being outside of the 4 major houses?
And also, the whole "Well Dacia trade cardy when our backs are turned" argument kinda makes Dacia's original intentions... rather flawed
So Dacia, unless you wanna stop trading cardy, stop shooting down other traders who do it
4S Squad, you said you're there because of Dacia being your freinds, so you can stop shooting "smugglers" in OA also

[Rayce_Katarn]

BabaRoga, please provide a link, otherwise your "intelligence" has no value as it can not be confirmed to be true or false. I did the courtesy of linking every bit of RP related info I gave. Please do the same.

[LIMAN]

[quote="Rayce_Katarn";p="183093"]...... And look what happened to the Americans >.> Everyone hates them now.... AND they got kicked out of UN.....
[/quote]

US kicked out of UN???????????????????????????
For someone who talks that much one would think you know basic stuff in life,but it seems you are clueless.

This im right you are wrong thing is boring,if you dont like us and what we do shoot us.

[Babieca]

[quote="BabaRoga";p="183102"]Well,
[align=justify]here are some informations, which may help you to pass through all this situation. 4S_SQUAD Intelligence provided us with very disturbing informations. Criminal groups have developed extremly dangerous drugs based on Cardamine Artefonus reaction, they have found out that Cardamine can react with special artefacts [revealed last year, in Omega quadrants] creating special bio-chemical compound. After facing the evidences it was obvius that Atalampia disaster has been connected with this matter. That's all what we can say at this "very" moment.

As you can see, only high sophisitcated, strong and organized Galactic Fleets and Empires can deal with this new threat. All mankind civilisations are in terrible danger, all mankind civilisations need any rational step,...so, ....Join our Glorious Fleet and protect humanity. Don't waste time.[/align][/quote]

The manipulation of Cardamine by others factions or clans or Mafias are not supported by outcast&Tercio. In OA Cardamine is pure, authentical. We would apreciate if you kill those criminals, but be sure that in OA nobody do it.

And you cant kill all cardamine traders because others manipulate it. Or are you going to kill Beer traders because  some people  poisoned it in some places?

Come on, when the true is in one side, when the freedom is broken there are not excuses. Where is the Balance, 4S??????

[Zebulon]

Can we try and focus on the RP guys.  (The US didnt get kicked out of the UN - thats left wing propaganda - they chose to IGNORE the UN when the spineless beaurocrats couldn't even agree on the colour of their own shyte - sorry but it does make me angry...) ahem .... as to links, if its RP then its imaginary and can be "made up" to fit the story and as long as it is relevant and consistent then it counts.  You think that just cos the Outcasts say that OA is theirs that the others are just going to leave?  I think not!  Dont see TERCIO leaving in a hurry or the AoF for that matter.

Anyway - keep up the good work chaps!

[Hans-Olo]

ooc: don´t diskuss that much ... play RP m8s  ;)