Rogues/Pirates
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Re: Rogues/Pirates
There any actual rules to that for pirates... I had more than a few continually demand tax (I had no credits at the time, unfortunately) and he would justy keep spamming tax over and over again, killing me every time I tried to dock at the planet I was trying to get to. I got pretty peeved and almost quit. I can understand the RP concept... but I've had it both ways too with a pirate I killed popping back up over and over again demanding tax and bugging me, killing him every time till he whittled me out of bots and bats. I don;t think having the Pirate tag should be a liscence to harass and overkill, and so far every Pirate I have ever met has done this. They think it's funny... well... I don;t and I'd rather deal with the SP campaign npc pirates and rogues than player controlled ones that won't take a hint. now I don't even bother RPing with any pirates... I just let them blow me up and switch to another character. Not worth the hassle.
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Re: Rogues/Pirates
[quote="Kittani";p="214308"]There any actual rules to that for pirates... I had more than a few continually demand tax (I had no credits at the time, unfortunately) and he would justy keep spamming tax over and over again, killing me every time I tried to dock at the planet I was trying to get to. I got pretty peeved and almost quit. I can understand the RP concept... but I've had it both ways too with a pirate I killed popping back up over and over again demanding tax and bugging me, killing him every time till he whittled me out of bots and bats. I don;t think having the Pirate tag should be a liscence to harass and overkill, and so far every Pirate I have ever met has done this. They think it's funny... well... I don;t and I'd rather deal with the SP campaign npc pirates and rogues than player controlled ones that won't take a hint. now I don't even bother RPing with any pirates... I just let them blow me up and switch to another character. Not worth the hassle.[/quote]
This may help, are 3 options you have on encountering a pirate:
1. Pay the pirate 200,000 credits. Nothing above it!
2. Fight the pirate. If you lose, you pay him when you respawn. If you win, you don't have to pay anything (unless you bump into him again).
3. RUN! In this case, it is considered fair to regen, but ONLY if you do not fire upon the Pirate. As soon as you fire a shot off at the opponent, it's considered a PvP, and it's considered bad form to regen.
Was in one of the former replies.
Regards,
Milithor
This may help, are 3 options you have on encountering a pirate:
1. Pay the pirate 200,000 credits. Nothing above it!
2. Fight the pirate. If you lose, you pay him when you respawn. If you win, you don't have to pay anything (unless you bump into him again).
3. RUN! In this case, it is considered fair to regen, but ONLY if you do not fire upon the Pirate. As soon as you fire a shot off at the opponent, it's considered a PvP, and it's considered bad form to regen.
Was in one of the former replies.
Regards,
Milithor
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Re: Rogues/Pirates
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Re: Rogues/Pirates
Ok - there is also an "overkill" rule. Once docked did you actualy engage this player in a conversation explaining you have nothing to give him? Pirate RP is relatively simple and in that this is a shooter server, the inability to pay tax doesnt necessarily save you from death - now if you cant pay him then I suggest that you do so - then he is obliged to leave you alone. Now - there is an overkill "guideline" - IF you dont return fire and its obvious you are not prepared to engage (and it helps if you actually TELL him this) and he destroys you more than you care for then you need to let me know. Screen Shots of conversations whilst docked help - also with a recording of the number of red death messages for your character (unedited) will seal this pirates fate. Some servers require a warning before you are attacked - all we require is that the pirate makes his demand for tax (max 200K). Refusal or inability to pay tends to involve you being shot. (see the explanations above)
Sounds like he was pushing the bounds of his RP a bit. If you have come from an RP server this can be a little difficult to get used to. Your other option is to contact Navy players on the server and get them to come and chase him off.
I try to encourage communication in situations like this - Pirates are supposed to be open to at least a modicum of negotiation -sadly there are some who fail to grasp this simple concept. Dont be discouraged - help should be at hand in the shape of the Navy - thats if they are playing their RP and not sitting in Sparta chatting with their thumbs up a dark passage. Ask for assistance - also take note of said pirate and put him on your "To Do Later" list .....

Sounds like he was pushing the bounds of his RP a bit. If you have come from an RP server this can be a little difficult to get used to. Your other option is to contact Navy players on the server and get them to come and chase him off.
I try to encourage communication in situations like this - Pirates are supposed to be open to at least a modicum of negotiation -sadly there are some who fail to grasp this simple concept. Dont be discouraged - help should be at hand in the shape of the Navy - thats if they are playing their RP and not sitting in Sparta chatting with their thumbs up a dark passage. Ask for assistance - also take note of said pirate and put him on your "To Do Later" list .....
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Re: Rogues/Pirates
Most people who say they are pirates cannot do the RP for shit, if I put it plainly. You get these "pirates" who come over to you demanding tax. If they win the ensuing fight (if one occurs), fair enough, they win and deserve their money. It's when they die, they respawn and CONTINUALLY spam TAX TAX TAX TAX in system chat.
Pirate? Are you balls a pirate! You're just someone who annoys the target for the money. And do you pay tax yourself? ...Exactly.
Of course this isn't all, but it is quite a lot of them.
Kittani, I know what you're talking about, and yeah, it's extremely annoying. These people shouldn't be allowed to make chars with the [X] in them. Seriously.
Pirate? Are you balls a pirate! You're just someone who annoys the target for the money. And do you pay tax yourself? ...Exactly.
Of course this isn't all, but it is quite a lot of them.
Kittani, I know what you're talking about, and yeah, it's extremely annoying. These people shouldn't be allowed to make chars with the [X] in them. Seriously.
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Re: Rogues/Pirates
Decent answer from a decent Pirate...
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Re: Rogues/Pirates
[quote="Kittani";p="214308"]There any actual rules to that for pirates... I had more than a few continually demand tax (I had no credits at the time, unfortunately) and he would justy keep spamming tax over and over again, killing me every time I tried to dock at the planet I was trying to get to. I got pretty peeved and almost quit. I can understand the RP concept... but I've had it both ways too with a pirate I killed popping back up over and over again demanding tax and bugging me, killing him every time till he whittled me out of bots and bats. I don;t think having the Pirate tag should be a liscence to harass and overkill, and so far every Pirate I have ever met has done this. They think it's funny... well... I don;t and I'd rather deal with the SP campaign npc pirates and rogues than player controlled ones that won't take a hint. now I don't even bother RPing with any pirates... I just let them blow me up and switch to another character. Not worth the hassle.[/quote]
This = pirate/Fail
Fail Pirates should be stripped of thier X
Ive posted about pirate rp so many times - this post = Fail
This = pirate/Fail
Fail Pirates should be stripped of thier X
Ive posted about pirate rp so many times - this post = Fail
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Re: Rogues/Pirates
The point zeus said i don't agree completely, since there will be only decent fighters who will can tax fighters...so newbies will not join pirates.
i agree with the point of spamming TAX TAX TAX tho, but i don't agree with you about rest.
I think the point for weaker fighters or pvper is to waste the time of the target, hunting him, ,chasing him, cd him, till he get annoyed and tax, this can be translated as a "FAIL" post by others, but that's how i proceed for BS mostly...
i agree with the point of spamming TAX TAX TAX tho, but i don't agree with you about rest.
I think the point for weaker fighters or pvper is to waste the time of the target, hunting him, ,chasing him, cd him, till he get annoyed and tax, this can be translated as a "FAIL" post by others, but that's how i proceed for BS mostly...
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