RE: Don't worry, not here to rebel.

[-Wolfie-]

ffs i cant believe u guys are still fighting over this crap -_-

all this fighting for improving nothing, just pleasuring your own ego... might be easy to blame everyone else but u should really look at yourself first

http://www.voidserver.com/modules.php?n ... wforum&f=1

[edam]

eh what am i looking for with that link?

[-Wolfie-]

[quote="edam";p="220098"]eh what am i looking for with that link?[/quote]

read the post and learn to think twice, seems noone here on void except a few people knows how to..

[Gr8-Lizard]

Honestly, i thynk, we could avoid those interminable discussions in the future, if Admins wil decide 2 give permanent ban 2 any prooved cheater player, no matter who is he, no mater from what clan, without w8 the decision of the clan leaders ,if they did eject those cheaters or not from theyr clans...I think this wil be a good solution 2 avoid a lot of acusations in the future,by tolerating a clan or another.Tolerance 0 is the solution, i think...

[edam]

[quote="-Wolfie-";p="220101"][quote="edam";p="220098"]eh what am i looking for with that link?[/quote]

read the post and learn to think twice, seems noone here on void except a few people knows how to..[/quote]

you crack on mate all i wanted by this post was to make peeps aware that by not permy banning cheaters is an open invite for peeps to test there mods

[edam]

[quote="Gr8-Lizard";p="220104"]Honestly, i thynk, we could avoid those interminable discussions in the future, if Admins wil decide 2 give permanent ban 2 any prooved cheater player, no matter who is he, no mater from what clan, without w8 the decision of the clan leaders ,if they did eject those cheaters or not from theyr clans...I think this wil be a good solution 2 avoid a lot of acusations in the future,by tolerating a clan or another.Tolerance 0 is the solution, i think...[/quote]


yup zero tolerance i agree with, and that should be adhered too.  Likewise if the clan leaders took steps also to sorta help the admins and voids out then that = loads of cookies

[[-ORION-]the_mon]

[quote="McViper";p="220069"]lol you think it's that easy.

Void is in a very bad situation, players leaving more and more, but still there is sometimes 30~ online in night.
But when i log in, I don't see any good old player i knew in the year i was in Void, only freelancers and sometimes clanmembers or some evils and even fewer navies.

That's due to many things, i'll say those : Cheats, and spam.

Cheats cheat to proove that they win, there is a prob on them, they love victory so much, they do whatever they can do to achieve their objective...on a space game.
In HC, there is 120 players on and i can say that it can realy flame there about cheats (in game), but they still so many.
Why? Because HC continue to brings them fun! They haven't real problems in its community and they all like to fight and doing huge wars. - Not that I take more fun there than here -

Spam : in HC spam is just hated, one missile and one wasp MAX tolerated, it doesn't mean that you can't mount 5 missiles on eagle, it just means if you do, you'll get totally gangbanged and / or hated till you'll even forget the idea of spamming.

There must be something like this in Void, a solid community with a good mod, which corresponds to the mentality of the players.
You tell it's not a democraty, but this server is made for US for our FUN.
So why not bringing the cheat and spam prob like you did for Battleships vec? I wonder why.
Oh and as far as i remember edam posted the second chance post about Shonen and others in his situation. He told that it's a cartoony space sim and we could give him a chance.
Giving a 2nd chance to cheaters is simply nonsense, as bers pointed up well.

And what a discussion about old cheaters in a clan or another clan doing on a so important thread like this one? WTF sherry or whatever he's named is doing on this thread about cheat and so ?
Some guys like for e.g. a " yy " think here that if that player " xx " left void, the server will be great !
Which surprise me, is that sometimes that " xx " guy tells that if " yy " guy leaves void, it'll be better.
Shows you how guys can hate each others, in a f***ing multiplayer game
This is what makes void failing, hate invaded the Void, void fails more and more, every hate post results a more degree for void to fail, but here, Fail isn't irrelevant!

Regards
Viper[/quote]since you seem that i havnt explained my point ill say it more spesific so you dont laugh in my face
if you cheat and get away without a perminit ban your lucky you didnt get the ban from a different admin or void lucky break but unless its your enimie or the perminit ban to a player in the past was your friend and if you dont cheat you should really dont care about this crud


edma @ try to relacks just dont cheat and you wont have isue with this if its your friend that got a perminit ban in the past than im sorry

viper @ this better or do you have to post a rude comment to me again :-w

[edam]

[quote="[-ORION-]the_mon";p="220107"][quote="McViper";p="220069"]lol you think it's that easy.

Void is in a very bad situation, players leaving more and more, but still there is sometimes 30~ online in night.
But when i log in, I don't see any good old player i knew in the year i was in Void, only freelancers and sometimes clanmembers or some evils and even fewer navies.

That's due to many things, i'll say those : Cheats, and spam.

Cheats cheat to proove that they win, there is a prob on them, they love victory so much, they do whatever they can do to achieve their objective...on a space game.
In HC, there is 120 players on and i can say that it can realy flame there about cheats (in game), but they still so many.
Why? Because HC continue to brings them fun! They haven't real problems in its community and they all like to fight and doing huge wars. - Not that I take more fun there than here -

Spam : in HC spam is just hated, one missile and one wasp MAX tolerated, it doesn't mean that you can't mount 5 missiles on eagle, it just means if you do, you'll get totally gangbanged and / or hated till you'll even forget the idea of spamming.

There must be something like this in Void, a solid community with a good mod, which corresponds to the mentality of the players.
You tell it's not a democraty, but this server is made for US for our FUN.
So why not bringing the cheat and spam prob like you did for Battleships vec? I wonder why.
Oh and as far as i remember edam posted the second chance post about Shonen and others in his situation. He told that it's a cartoony space sim and we could give him a chance.
Giving a 2nd chance to cheaters is simply nonsense, as bers pointed up well.

And what a discussion about old cheaters in a clan or another clan doing on a so important thread like this one? WTF sherry or whatever he's named is doing on this thread about cheat and so ?
Some guys like for e.g. a " yy " think here that if that player " xx " left void, the server will be great !
Which surprise me, is that sometimes that " xx " guy tells that if " yy " guy leaves void, it'll be better.
Shows you how guys can hate each others, in a f***ing multiplayer game
This is what makes void failing, hate invaded the Void, void fails more and more, every hate post results a more degree for void to fail, but here, Fail isn't irrelevant!

Regards
Viper[/quote]since you seem that i havnt explained my point ill say it more spesific so you dont laugh in my face
if you cheat and get away without a perminit ban your lucky you didnt get the ban from a different admin or void lucky break but unless its your enimie or the perminit ban to a player in the past was your friend and if you dont cheat you should really dont care about this crud


edma @ try to relacks just dont cheat and you wont have isue with this if its your friend that got a perminit ban in the past than im sorry

viper @ this better or do you have to post a rude comment to me again :-w[/quote]

not my friend that got permy banned at all what i trying to say is if you let one off you gotta let em all off - they need to get rid of cheats full stop regardless of who they are mate.

[[-ORION-]the_mon]

but why should you care bud its not really bad if you have no feelings for that person simple if you see cheaters on here you should be glad its not you to get mikst up in this thing


sorry

[mightybean]

[quote="[-ORION-]the_mon";p="220109"]but why should you care bud its not really bad if you have no feelings for that person simple if you see cheaters on here you should be glad its not you to get mikst up in this thing


sorry[/quote]

I'm not quite sure I understand you. Your saying that we shouldn't cheat, however we shouldn't care if anybody else cheats?

[[-ORION-]the_mon]

 you have a point im saying that let the admins and voids take care of it thing is if you keep cheating youd get perminit ban but if you cheat you get 7 day ban or a perminit ban make sense? talking about if you cheat once than you have 80 percent chance getting banned forever kk.

[Retribution]

And this is what happens every single time.......

FIVE...count them 5 pages of FAIL..... an endless circle of disscusion/debate where nothing actually gets agreed on its just goes round and round and round.

This is this servers problem
This has been this servers problem for years
This is VOID..

?

P.S

Ello chris long time no see m8, if you can see this, stay lucky me ole mucker and if you still play EVE my char names SuppresiveHate.

[-Wolfie-]

[quote="edam";p="220105"][quote="-Wolfie-";p="220101"][quote="edam";p="220098"]eh what am i looking for with that link?[/quote]

read the post and learn to think twice, seems noone here on void except a few people knows how to..[/quote]

you crack on mate all i wanted by this post was to make peeps aware that by not permy banning cheaters is an open invite for peeps to test there mods[/quote]

nono mate i didnt mean it that way, i was just pointing out that there has been way many of these topics and none goes anywhere than bad...

[edam]

doesnt matter as the admins wont sort it out neither will the voids and whats the FAQ gonna do too well nowt really so adios and enjoy your cheat filled server. im outta here gonna go join my friends in in other servers and crack on with my study.

Cheers peeps from a player that never cheated!!!!!!!!!!!

[Verminard]

Well I'm going out on a limb here, my personal opinion, having never once in my life cheated at an online game is 2 strikes your out, Pernament Ban. Thats what i'd like to see. Problem is looking at the FLAC logs we'd loose half the players on the Void, but it would be worth it. Problem is you can't just go on the FLAC logs alone, as some of the false positives can be caused by lag and server crash.

If i catch you cheating twice (there can be false positives), and i believe there are grounds that the person is a proven cheat, then I will ban you and as far as I'm concerned it will be pernament, unless Vector_X decides otherwise as HE is in charge of the server.

That is my personal opinion on the matter, I have documented it many times before I became a Guard.
I don't care if you are an old friend, new friend, whatever, if this game or any other, you are not worth the sweat off my *****, if you are a cheat and if I can do anything about it your gone.

All easy to say, you try doing it. Everytime I have tried all I end up with is an inbox full of complaints off his mates, and clan mates and others it's got FA to do with. When we do ban someone for cheating, how about thinking yay they caught a cheat, instead of he's a guy I've never met, i've never looked through his game files, but he's been nice to me, i'll send the Admin 20 PM saying he's an a*****e for banning my mate.