a word about PVP training..and maybe some tips

JUNO · Post by **JUNO** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 12:36 am

very usefull post thx a lot Stoertebecker

mesoreznica · Post by **mesoreznica** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 2:04 am

entropyslayer wrote:
Remember you dont have to see the ship to fire missiles at it THIS is the golden rule!!

Hope this helps someone, Off to work

Ent

Hm this colud work against Horus. Il try this.

LP

mesoreznica · Post by **mesoreznica** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 2:13 am

OK entropyslayer i am a IDIOT.

I found now the description how to fight the horus.

Sorry m8.

LP

Ebon-Steel · Post by **Ebon-Steel** » Sat May 20, 2006 10:32 am

I don't know if anyone even bothers to read this anymore, but I might as well post anyway.

There are two important things to keep in mind in a fight.

A. Survive. You can't win if you're dead. If you're still licking wounds from that last pass, do not circle around for another one. Just dodge as best you can. While not shooting, don't hold down your thruster, tap it. It will make you difficult to shoot at as well as conserving thrust energy. When turning(this is a somewhat risky maneuver), reverse your engines. It will help you to turn faster.

B. Adaptability. Watch your opponent. Learn what he or she is doing. Most duels often fall into a repetition of the same thing over and over again. A good duelist will learn how to identify these patterns and act on them. If your opponent is circling close to you, use mines. If you're jousting, use missiles and torps. Change your tactics. You're more likely to win if you are unpredictable.

Some lesser things. Don't get pissed off if you lose. You just respawn and have done nothing except gain some valuable experience. Also, don't call someone a hacker. Modders will be able to kill you in about 10 seconds or less without even blinking. Some pilots are just exceptionally good.

Goose · Post by **Goose** » Sat Aug 19, 2006 5:36 pm

I'm bumping this post in an attempt to help restore some of the lost respect around here. This is not the post I was looking for, the one I sought was entirely about "respectful pvp", by Stoert, but alas I can't find the post. If anyone knows the post I'm referring to, please bump it so that it might appear on the front page awhile for the new(and old)clients to see. Or, maybe Stoert would do us the honors of retyping the original post with any revisions he may see fit to incorporate into "respectful pvp".
Entropy, you know your own opinions about such matters are equally respected amongst us so anything you would have to say will be equally appreciated.
Respect all.

TradeMasta · Post by **TradeMasta** » Sat Aug 19, 2006 6:06 pm

oh and one more bit of advice,don't accept a pvp if your in an dromedary and your opponents in an Anubis Mk2 with great weapons,just common sense

btw where can you get a horus? is is that one of those "NPC only"
like the highbred?

Kurtdog · Post by **Kurtdog** » Sat Aug 19, 2006 7:23 pm

Always good tips and stuff here guys, so Bump

KD,

Burn · Post by **Burn** » Sat Aug 19, 2006 7:26 pm

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Post by **Watchwolf** » Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:03 pm

Wish I'd seen this before I asked.

Thanks.

Goose · Post by **Goose** » Sat Aug 19, 2006 10:44 pm

TradeMasta wrote:
btw where can you get a horus? is is that one of those "NPC only"
like the highbred?

The Horus was available to players in recent mods, but it was considered unbalanced and has become unavailable to players in this mod.

TradeMasta · Post by **TradeMasta** » Sun Aug 20, 2006 7:43 am

ok thank you.

btw what do you mean by "unbalanced" was it unfair or what?

Tepanator · Post by **Tepanator** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 3:32 am

horus still exists????? dang shame some off the best horus pilots are not here anymore

EXXIT · Post by **EXXIT** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 9:29 am

Tepanator wrote:horus still exists????? dang shame some off the best horus pilots are not here anymore

Yes but its NPC only now.

My 2 cents for newbies(no offence) to pvp.

1. Avoid using guns with too different refire rates such as 2.0 and 8.33.
Its nearly impossible to use them while shooting with all guns.(Just personal expierence)

2. Try out Weapon Grouping(mouse with side buttons strongly recommended).
Its very helpful in case that you have fast flying shield killers(Screamers) and any hull guns.
You assign Screamers to group one and all hull(they better be all same guns) - to group two.Group selecting buttons must be in close and comfortable place for fingers(thats where you will need side buttons on mouse - even the ones that change volume would help in our case).
When you start an fight,you take enemy's shield down,turn on the 2nd group,and take his hull down.
The pro's and con's of this way - you dont consume much energy on useless shots(screamers have not so much hull damage),so you can shoot more - means you can kill enemy faster.Also this way you can use different projectile speed guns because of this:

1. it just shows the "aiming point" for your fastest projectile speed weapon. For example if you have a screamer (1k speed) and a nomad VHF turret(500 or so) and you aim at the cross while the enemy goes straight.. well most likely the screamer will hit, but the nomad gun will miss. So, if you want to archive a great number of hits per salvo try to use weapons of the same speed. SIDE NOTE: if you have weps with many different speeds you will create a shotgun like spread, which might come in handy now and then too.

And also THIS PAGE,POST Nº 9!

These points are right ones,but if you have some guns turned off(thats what grouping does),the reticle will be set for the guns you have turned on.

But you will have to train a lot to make it perfect.

Hope this helps a bit

Good luck!

Master · Post by **Master** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:19 am

Time to add my 5 cents.

See that little + that helps u aim?
Ignore it
UNLESS

That little + is tuned to one set of your guns. And some guns are faster or slower than others. So unless your guns are all the same speed it may be time to using instinct and that little thing as a guide only.
In my case:
I flew with a very diverse set of guns but they all had a speed match so I used that to get to grips with my firing. I was more of a torp user than much else but those secrets I aint spilling.
Something I must say though is STRAFE. Dont fly straight. And be un-predicatble. Try to remain somewhat loose and watch what your opponent does.dont strafe the same way everytime and dont always do the same thing.

Use that Thruster! its what it is there for. The faster you hit your opponent the harder u hit them.

A little advice for Missile or Torp users.
The best defence against these is CD's (cruise Disruptors) now the way these work is as follows:
It locks onto the player and is extremly fast. High manuverably almost always garentees a hit. So with this said watch when they fire them. The other thing is it explodes when it comes close to something (torp missile etc) so if you fire a torp and move off there is a good chance your missile will be completly un-hampered on it journey.
So:
Fire your torp or missile and Start to strake and fire. Thats the best Advice I can give to users. The other thing is you are going to lose alot when u start.
Pvp uses alot of head on Runs. So watch how your opponent reacts to these. Try force him into a Straight line. Use your Engine kill and go further back and wait for him to be going what I called "deadline" which means he flies straight at you to try catch you. Unload and hit Thruster and go toward him but DO change direction slightlyy

Other than that it takes experience. Good luck

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