what u think about npc's dificullty?

[NoMaadd]

in my oppinion npcs fly too unreal like flyes.

for egzample they almot not attack just spin .

go to NY and u will see that patriots just spin spin around u and hes only one he not attack u from straight.

i do mission against nomads valkyrie n1 take me more then 30 min's coz they move too much and almost never attack, but if attack only from behind

so i made poll vote !!!!!

[Craig]

Well maybe u just aint aiming good enough m8  :P  lol
or maybe its the guns u use? iim not sure but i cant say much cuz i like to pvp but the often npc kill is good tho so i vote "i dont kill npcs"

[Inf1n1ty]

I agree NoMadd
Npc's should be like the single player. Sure it makes them easy to kill, but some high lvl missions just take to long to finish.

But on the other hand if the npc's become as weak as in the sp than there is no challange.

Cya in The Void, Inf.

[Strail]

NPC in newyork are ripped from Vanilla anyway..its so the new players can kill them and stopped me getting flooded with emails about how hard it is to do a level 1 mission.

Higher level npc fights are there for the waves and the money - earning 1m for a mission against noms, isnt going to be a job you can get in between drags of your fag. (figure of speech)

Were limited to what we can do on the missions in terms of modding

**waits for the post from someone completing a 1m mission whilst just lighting up

[LIMAN]

What are you talking about nomadd???
Npc's are easy,to easy  :P
30 min for killing nomads,only if you have lag.
It takes me 5 to 15 minutes for a mission.

[Foxxle]

Personally i don't mind fighting difficult npc's.
Sure sometimes they just twirl for a few minutes but still, i don't think it should be taking you a half hour to complete a mission. It might be your weapons, if they all fly at different speeds it makes it hard to do very much damage while aiming for the red cross. Try checking that. If that's not the case, or if you're still having a hard time landing hits, try switching to weapons with a higher refire rate.
i hope this helps.

[Inf1n1ty]

I just did a 1.1m mission in Osiris, and i still stand with the fact that it takes to long. It's not because of the constant reinforcment, but just because the npc's move unnatural.
It may be just my connection, but i heart that other players have the same problems.

Ohh it only happans with nomies and fugitives.

Cya out in there, Inf.

[skyhawk]

@nomadd:

to kill Nomads in Mission:

are you sure with 30 min?  ...or does it feel like 30 min?  

Nomads are relative strong enemys (also in Mission).
I mean its correct that the time you need to kill them is longer,
or dont you use Nomad-Armor like them?  

[Xardas]

I have no problems killing the nomads npcs . Same with other npcs.
The nomads are easy to kill at the moment.

PS: Old players will know that some time ago nomads were very hard to kill I mean they had STRONG hull and 3 or 4 players could kill one  nomad VHF Valkery N1. Or one player but 30min per 1 ship.

[NoMaadd]

i fly deimos with titanium armor with 4 nomies blasters and 2 bebilator turrets

they r balanced and hit very well .

that not take 30 min it look like that but its too long ;((

agree to infinity the fly unnatural in my oppinion.

but its chalenge

And i also more like PvP

[-Recoil-]

Well it dont take me 30mins lol... for some more like 30 seconds

I do agree with you that when you attack the dodge and fly around in circles, but i just think that its their "strategy" of trying to kill you - The NPC you are trying to kill flys away from the group and dodges whilst the rest gang bang you.

If you want to fight them like in a pvp, then just fly 1.5k away from your target, they turn around fly straight at you...

Recoil

[LIMAN]

If you use engine kill its harder to hit them,use normal flight.
Use torp.Drop their sheald with gunns and then hit them with a torp.
Missions in osiris are harder because of the rocks around you,because you bump on them and then lose target  #-o
I find pirates,outcasts and corsairs harder to kill because of their wierd flight pattern.

[Zebulon]

Memories.....*(sigh)*.

I get your frustration mate.  First time I came here I thought someone had opened the gates of hell and let all the inmates out! - The Libery Rogues were never that difficult to catch before...!!! But I go used to it.

I get my NPC kicks in Nomad1 - at first they wiped the floor with me and on a few occasions it has been a close call. I did go up against some Bounty Hunters once in my pirate charcater and go mauled to bits.  Outcasts and Fugitives can be a nasty surprise too.   Like all things - they present a challenge - I like the idea that I can go up against something that is not going to just sit there and let me shoot at it.  

What distresses me is the thought that if I can fly so well against NPC's then why cant I do it in PvP? The answer is that NPC's are predicatable - each type follows a pattern - a complicated patter for sure, but a pattern none the less.  In PvP, the biggest advantage is not to be predictable - sadly thats exactly what I am, hence the poor PvP stats!  High Value Missions necessitate a level of difficulty - the greater the reward the greater the risk.

"There are more hostiles at the next waypoint" - is the phrase I hate hearing.  I'm down to my last batch of missiles and my bots and bats are toasted - you just know it might not end well at all for you....But what a BLAST!  - Chin up and Give 'em Hell.....

Cya in da Black!

[Arch_Vile]

yeah i had that prob too but usually in places wif rocks around em...hate fighting in those places such as unknown 2.....anybody ever pvp in rock infested system like in tohoku arnd the planet sanctuary n places similar??

[Zebulon]

I love ROCKS....  Omega 5 from Cadiz taking ops against the Hessians - thats the way to do it.  I guess my fighting style is such that I might be better off PvPing amongst the Rocks - I cut my teeth on Hessians and their pesky manouvers round and round the lumps of debris in Omega 5.  To hear that you would think I could take on anyone and come out top....sadly, I blame my arthritis.... that and the wobbly table I play on...! !!  :D