Withdrawl of troops from Omicron Alpha

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Withdrawl of troops from Omicron Alpha

Post by Rayce_Katarn »

Dana 07.01.2007. sklopljen je Sporazum o nenapadanju izmedu
[Outcasts] i >4S_SQUAD<klana>4S_SQUAD<arrow>4S_SQUAD< da se ovaj Sporazum postuje.

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Per our Ceasefire Agreement, we respectfully ask you to withdraw ALL troops from Omicron Alpha and to not permit such actions as the below.

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Re: Withdrawl of troops from Omicron Alpha

Post by BabaRoga »

Sorry mate, our fleet is going to stay in that sector ....
You had no presence in Omicron Alpha during  long period of time so we had to secure all main traffic routes with our allies.

If you get a fleet capable of sorting things out according to Intergalactic Law  we may reconsider our futher presence.
As you may know, Intergalactical Law recognizes the cardamine as illegal commodity, strongly forbiden to transport, consume, and trade with.
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Re: Withdrawl of troops from Omicron Alpha

Post by -Wolfie- »

[quote="BabaRoga";p="182975"]Sorry mate, our fleet is going to stay in that sector ....
You had no presence in Omicron Alpha during  long period of time so we had to secure all main traffic routes with our allies.

If you get a fleet capable of sorting things out according to Intergalactic Law  we may reconsider our futher presence.
As you may know, Intergalactical Law recognizes the cardamine as illegal commodity, strongly forbiden to transport, consume, and trade with.[/quote]


thats just in house systems...not in borderworlds

outcasts find it FULLY legal 2 trade cardamine so its NOT smuggling
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Re: Withdrawl of troops from Omicron Alpha

Post by Rayce_Katarn »

This issue has been brought up before, but no one saw it fit to clarify or to make a final statement.

Omicron Alpha is the Outcasts home system. It is a system controlled and owned by pirates, who make their own laws. If 4S_Squad and Dacia wish to stop the smuggling of Cardamine, then they are more than welcome to guard the OA/Alex Jumphole to prevent such trade. But within Omicron Alpha, this is viewed as an invasion of pirate space and will be dealt with as such. We reasonably ask for the withdrawal of Dacia and 4S_Squad out of pirate territory. Such offenses WILL NOT be tolerated for much longer.

I also would like to bring out that 4S fired on a defenseless Outcasts Trader. Per our Ceasefire, we are not subject to your Customs Protocol. Please keep your men in line. If any further acts of unprovoked violence by 4S_Squad occur against ANY Outcasts ships, it will be viewed as break of the Ceasefire and a declaration of war by 4S_Squad.

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Re: Withdrawl of troops from Omicron Alpha

Post by Watchwolf »

[quote="Rayce_Katarn";p="182984"]This issue has been brought up before, but no one saw it fit to clarify or to make a final statement.

Omicron Alpha is the Outcasts home system. It is a system controlled and owned by pirates, who make their own laws. If 4S_Squad and Dacia wish to stop the smuggling of Cardamine, then they are more than welcome to guard the OA/Alex Jumphole to prevent such trade. But within Omicron Alpha, this is viewed as an invasion of pirate space and will be dealt with as such. We reasonably ask for the withdrawal of Dacia and 4S_Squad out of pirate territory. Such offenses WILL NOT be tolerated for much longer.

I also would like to bring out that 4S fired on a defenseless Outcasts Trader. Per our Ceasefire, we are not subject to your Customs Protocol. Please keep your men in line. If any further acts of unprovoked violence by 4S_Squad occur against ANY Outcasts ships, it will be viewed as break of the Ceasefire and a declaration of war by 4S_Squad.

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[RP] Freelancer Watchwolf: The man has a point... what you do in your own house is your own business. If 4S or Dacia want to enforce anti-smuggling laws, go ahead and (try to) lock the doors in and out of the system from smugglers. Otherwise, no police can tell a family what to eat at their own dinner table. [/RP]
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Re: Withdrawl of troops from Omicron Alpha

Post by -Wolfie- »

would u PLZ consider moving out...ur ruining every1s economy but urselfs


this applies 2 dacia as well


i guess ull be hated by the server soon just like =ESF=
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Re: Withdrawl of troops from Omicron Alpha

Post by Zebulon »

OK - whilst I take on WW's observation, here is another one for you...

The source of misery for many in the home systems is the insidious spread of Cardamine. "Cardamine. Cardamine. Everyone wants Cardamine!" Drug trafficing is the single biggest cause of crime in the Syrius systems.  In order to prevent its spread and given the lack of success in any blockade, the victims of the Drug Cartel known as The Outcasts have chosen to bring the solution to their door step and to combat those that would traffic such filth.  Dacia and 4S are well within the remit of their office to bring the Drugs War home to the source.  They are protecting the rest of Syrius and curtailing the Drug Barons and their immoral and unlawful trade.....

Just a thought .....  :D
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Re: Withdrawl of troops from Omicron Alpha

Post by PapaJoe »

:-?  If you cant trade cardamine or are unwilling to take the risk in OA then maybe you should look further afield for a source of income.  I know I have and Im keeping mine quiet... hehe.  

I will continue to smuggle or not to smuggle drugs when and where I see fit and the navy can chase me all it likes.  Hey - dont yell at them - it just shows they are being effective in wiping out the drugs trade.  Its a bit like the Columbian Drug Smugglers saying to the Royal Navy in the Caribean - "Please dont chase us, you are spoiling our fun and ruining our income!"  :D

If you were half way effective you would try and eradicate the presence of the law in OA - or at least go find another route or commodity - they are only there cos you are - if you move away they will get bored again and have to change tactics.  

Im a trader and I like to go about my business uninterupted by Navy or Pirates.  While 4S and Dacia are in OA I can be doing naughty things else where - thanks chaps.

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Re: Withdrawl of troops from Omicron Alpha

Post by Hans-Olo »

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OA is our pirate system!
so get your ass out of our system or we´ll kick em out by gunfire!


ooc: now it´s becoming kind of fun!
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Re: Withdrawl of troops from Omicron Alpha

Post by Rayce_Katarn »

OOC: Well, I'd have no problem moving out, but RP wise... I just don't see the Outcasts getting up an leaving over a few freelance groups, who aren't even part of the any Lawful Organization.... 4S themselves declared that they are an army, neither good nor bad... So it's not like 4S or Dacia are there under any legal obligation >.>

@Papa Joe: It's more like the Royal Navy landing troops on Colombia and shooting anyone who happens to be in a freighter and then blowing said boat up with dynamite.

"In order to prevent its spread and given the lack of success in any blockade, the victims of the Drug Cartel known as The Outcasts have chosen to bring the solution to their door step and to combat those that would traffic such filth." - Zebulon
Say wha? We're the VICTIMS of Cardamine.... Since when? I thought our motto was "#1 Producers of Cardamine in the Void"

Also, sticking with the RP theory. If the Navy EVER moved in on a Pirate System... A Pirate HOME System.... You could be quite sure that every damn pirate would be there to root them out and total war would break out. An example: The USA landing troops in Leningrad during the Cold War with Russia. Pirates and Navy are basically at a Cold War. Yes we shoot each other, but full offensive like that of Dacia and 4S would NORMALLY have caused one of the largest PvP wars in the Void. They simply took advantage of the fact that the Outcasts died down for bit, RP Wise, made up an excuse and moved in. Personally, my thinking is that Dacia moved in there because no one would PvP against them anymore and were ignoring them....

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"Drug trafficing is the single biggest cause of crime in the Syrius systems." - Zebulon
"unlawful trade." - Zebulon
I thing we just established that fact that Cardamine is NOT illegal in OA and thus not a crime nor an unlawful trade, whereas the invasion of a system can't quite be considered "Legal" either.

Guys, if possible try to maintain RP. This is why we're here, remember? Thanks ^^

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Re: Withdrawl of troops from Omicron Alpha

Post by Babieca »

To all factions and clans that wrote here:

Omicron Alpha is NOT A PIRATE SYSTEM. It is an outcast System. There is one outcast clan there TERCIO, and one association AoF. Now another clan called outcast came back, they are welcomed because they are outcast, and we dont mind if they are pirates rogues or whatever, they are outcast so they are our brothers.

Outcast are beyond the evil and good, their main target is to control their systems and to give everybody the excellent Cardamine, that they only produce. Outcast depends of the cardamine for living, we need to consume it, like food and water. Maybe some of you should read the outcast faction history.

Anybody that trade with cardamine is an allie, anybody that kill cardamine traders in OA is an enemy. And as Watchwolf wrote very clear the only true [font=Century Gothic]"The man has a point... what you do in your own house is your own business. If 4S or Dacia want to enforce anti-smuggling laws, go ahead and (try to) lock the doors in and out of the system from smugglers. Otherwise, no police can tell a family what to eat at their own dinner table "[/font]
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Re: Withdrawl of troops from Omicron Alpha

Post by -Wolfie- »

i got a pirate...my motto is CARDAMINE FOR THE PEOPLE!!!


so...lets wipe out the intruders :P
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Re: Withdrawl of troops from Omicron Alpha

Post by Hans-Olo »

[quote="-Wolfie-";p="183044"]i got a pirate...my motto is CARDAMINE FOR THE PEOPLE!!!

so...lets wipe out the intruders :P
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Re: Withdrawl of troops from Omicron Alpha

Post by Blaster »

DACIA: You use this trade route aswell...so if u call it "smuggling" ur a corrupted anti-smuggler clan[/quote]
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Re: Withdrawl of troops from Omicron Alpha

Post by -DESTROYER- »

>>The following words are mines, not of 4S SQUAD<<

[quote="Rayce_Katarn";p="182984"]If 4S_Squad and Dacia wish to stop the smuggling of Cardamine, then they are more than welcome to guard the OA/Alex Jumphole to prevent such trade.[/quote]

So then traders will enter the system when we're not online. There is absolutely no reason for traders to leave OA. i don't see the point in guarding the JHs.

[quote="Rayce_Katarn";p="182984"]I also would like to bring out that 4S fired on a defenseless Outcasts Trader. Per our Ceasefire, we are not subject to your Customs Protocol.[/quote]

Our traders don't trade cardamine, nor do Dacia-s. Why should your traders be treated differently? If a Dacia trader or a 4S trader smuggle cardamine (witch i doubt will happen) - i would shoot at him.

@The cardamine legal / not legal thing - I absolutely don't care if it's not legal or not. We decided to stop trading / smuggling of cardamine - thats our RP and what we want to do. This is not Discovery RP server - if you want real NPC based RP go there.
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